----- Original Message -----

| From: "PAUL CARVER" <[email protected]>
| To: "Dan Wendlandt" <[email protected]>, "Rajshree Thorat"
| <[email protected]>
| Cc: [email protected]
| Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:23:21 PM
| Subject: RE: [Openstack] ESXi in production with Neutron

| Dan Wendlandt wrote:

| > In my experience working with customers, people typically either dip their
| > toe in to start by just running ESXi/vSphere with

| > nova-network, or they have decided on NSX from the get-go and start with
| > Neutron. If you're just looking for nova-network,

| > VOVA makes it really easy to do a basic nova-network setup:
| > https://communities.vmware.com/docs/DOC-24626

| We’re running Quantum (in Grizzly) with OvS+GRE overlay networking with KVM
| only. NSX and VMWare/Nicira are among the SDN vendors who claim to be able
| to integrate ESXi with KVM in a multi-hypervisor OpenStack cloud, but
| they’re not the only one. There are a number of other vendors who claim they
| can also integrate ESXi with KVM in a common virtual network.

Yes, I'm aware of people proposing approaches that involve using virtual 
appliances for packet forwarding instead of the in-kernel vSwitch. Perhaps 
there are other approaches as well (e.g., SR-IOV + HW). 

I focused on NSX + nova-network because I started the email by saying " In my 
experience working with customers...", and I have never seen anything other 
than those two options running in production. 
Dan 

| We’re not ready to just decide to go with VMWare/Nicira without first
| evaluating all the options.

| However, we’re getting some pressure to support ESXi in a timeframe that
| doesn’t allow for completing the SDN evaluation. I’m trying to figure out if
| we can integrate ESXi into our KVM based OvS+GRE/Neutron (post-upgrade from
| Grizzly) cloud in the interim, or if we need to push back and say that we
| simply can’t support ESXi in the requested timeframe.
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