> Am 25.08.2014 um 20:52 schrieb Andreas Färber <[email protected]>:
> 
> Am 25.08.2014 20:36, schrieb Alexander Graf:
>> On 25.08.14 19:27, Andreas Färber wrote:
>>> Am 25.08.2014 16:56, schrieb Alexander Graf:
>>>> On 25.08.14 16:54, Matwey V. Kornilov wrote:
>>>>> 25.08.2014 14:05, Andreas Färber пишет:
>>>>>> We need a FAT partition
>>>>> 
>>>>> Why are all of them (I mean vendor supplied U-boot) so in love with FAT?
>>>>> There is support of ext2 in U-boot, and they boot nothing but Linux.
>>>> 
>>>> Yeah, can't we do the RPi model with binary blobs (FAT) + /boot (ext2) +
>>>> / (ext4)?
>>> 
>>> Hm? You and Marcus already did that for the RPi looong time ago. :)
>>> 
>>> For the Parallella the issue is that downstream U-Boot is on flash, and
>>> I don't want to brick the board I had to wait for so long with U-Boot
>>> upstreaming experiments of my own. (There's no direct JTAG connector.)
>>> 
>>> I could try to change my local boot environment, but then a JeOS image
>>> would not be of general use. By default, it tries to boot uImage +
>>> devicetree.dtb without looking for a boot.scr even. So unless we can
>>> chainload another U-Boot as "uImage" via bootm command with a dummy
>>> devicetree.dtb, we can't move the kernel to another partition nor
>>> fatload-incompatible filesystem.
>> 
>> Does that u-boot support ext2? If so, I think it's reasonable to have
>> people do
>> 
>>  # setenv bootcmd <foo>
>>  # saveenv
>> 
>> before they can run openSUSE on their boards :). And in that setenv that
>> we write into the wiki we would make it search for boot.scr on ext2.
> 
> Well, it boils down to: Is it reasonable to expect that every openSUSE
> user of the board has a matching UART TTL adapter? On other boards
> that's been optional, in case everything Just Works(tm). You just stick
> our card in and you're good.

Just trying to be creative to make everyone's life easier ;).

> 
> If we no longer want to support original flashed firmware, then surely
> there's some simplifications we can start making in the JeOS sources.

Well, we still want the original firmware. The only thing I would consider ok 
for mandatory modification is the config.

But I don't really have a strong opinion either way, whatever gets you there 
fastest and makes life reasonably easy for others is a win IMHO :).


Alex

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