Am Samstag, 11. Februar 2006 14:51 schrieb Marcel Hilzinger:
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 01:15:39PM +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote:
> > On Saturday, 11. February 2006 12:08, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> > > On Sat, Feb 11, 2006 at 11:48:17AM +0100, Stephan Kulow wrote:
> > > > On Saturday, 11. February 2006 11:39, Marcel Hilzinger wrote:
> > > > > Thanks Hougi!
> > > > > If nobody complains within 48 hours, I will file a bug report then,
> > > > > because I know no reason, why this is still set to yes.
> > > >
> > > > Because SUSE has IPv6 by default?
> > >
> > > Yes, I know Stephan. But do you know, how many users do have (WLAN-)
> > > routers at home, which do not support IPv6 at all? And with such
> > > devices Konqueror gets terribly slow when Browsing the internet. I
> > > often get complains from endusers, and almost everybody with a low cost
> > > router has problems with these settings.
> >
> > If there is a problem with the router, then konqueror is the least of
> > your problems. And KDE_USE_IPv6 is (as the name) suggests only a
> > workaround that applies to KDE. And as it's a workaround, we won't enable
> > it by default (as in ="no"). Either SUSE is default IPv6 or it's not - so
> > if you want to file a bug report, then target a wider audience.
>
> You mean sending a bug report for Konqueror (Firefox has no problems under
> 10.0, afaik) ? Or disabling IPv6 as default for the whole distro? ;-)
>
> Regards,
> Marcel
>

Turning it off by default for the whole distro would be a good move until it 
is a generally accepted standard. As it is a large number of ISP's and home 
routers do not support IPv6, so SUSE just sits there looking like a slug 
waiting for timeout requests before falling back to v4.

With every install I have done, the first thing that needed to be done after 
install was complete was to edit /etc/modprobe.conf and turn the flag off in 
KDE.

If IPv6 doesn't work with your ISP, then it will affect Firefox as well. The 
problem seems to be DNS servers/routers timing out on IPv6 requests, then the 
older DNS requests going through. Actual traffic throughput is unaffected in 
most cases, the problem is having to wait 30-60 seconds for each DNS request 
to process.

Once you know where the problem lies, it is automatic to switch off IPv6. For 
newbies it isn't. One of the most regularly recurring problems (apart from 
installing multimedia capabilities) is why is Konqueror/Firefox so slow in 
SUSE, in Windows or Ubuntu it takes 1 second to draw a web page, in SUSE it 
takes 30 seconds to 1 minute to draw the same page.

For old hands and people with compliant ISP's and routing equipment it isn't a 
problem, it either works at full speed or we know where to switch it off, for 
new hands it is often a shock and as internet access is probably one of the 
first things they do, it doesn't leave a very good first impression of SUSE 
Linux.

Dave

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