On Friday 27 April 2007 12:15, Rajko M. wrote:
> On Friday 27 April 2007 10:02, James Tremblay wrote:
> > On Friday 27 April 2007 10:00, Rajko M. wrote:
>
> ....
>
> > > It might be good to analyze software piece by piece, that might benefit
> > > discusion to move from opinions to facts, and help both desktops to
> > > look better and be more functional.
> > >
> > > But, who is going to start?
> > > We can't get one man to make a list of educational software that should
> > > be reviewed, which is smaller task than all of the openSUSE.
> > > How to find the one that is going to volunteer for the second?
> > >
> > > As it is now I'm afraid that we would have problem how to name the
> > > project, not to mention how to organize collaboration.
> > >
> > > The tool is there - openSUSE wiki, we just have to find the way to use
> > > it.
> >
> > Your position on not liking two separate disk 1's understandable, however
> > look at it from the perspective of imaging and maintaining 500 PC's
> > (which i do) my laptops default KDE is 3.8g this is a lot of data to move
> > with a tool like Zenworks imaging or Ghost , while on the other hand my
> > XP image is just under 500m.
>
> I can imagine administrator's problems, but limiting functionality would
> not help.
>
> Mentioned RH 9 is 3 CD's (1.8 GB) and I wasn't happy, except with
> consistency of visual appearance. It was missing or partially implemented
> functionality that made me to abandon it.
>
> Basic openSUSE graphic installation is about 800 MB, but it is pretty
> useless. Basic KDE, so far I recall is 1.2.GB, and it is useful. Both
> numbers are bit obsolete, but underlaying reason for the size is open
> source development where developers use tools that they know, which builds
> up number of dependencies.
>
> I mentioned Ubuntu / Kubuntu, they have one CD images, so it is probably
> the time to see what they have to offer and compare to SUSE. Last time I
> wasn't impressed.
I'm not suggesting that anyone use the first cd as a daily desktop I'm just
asking that it get us to a runlevel 5 desktop that will allow further
installation of applications from the other disks. YaST can still ask us if
we want more during the original installation but if we do nothing we get a
bare minimum, such as without OpenOffice which would be no small reduction.
A SuSEr once said "SuSE isn't just a distro but an entire set of Linux
tools" . I'm only asking that we rearrange the disks to give more choice as
to what an when things get installed.
--
James Tremblay
Director of Technology
Newmarket School District
Novell CNE 3\4\5
CLE \ NCE in training.
http://en.opensuse.org/education
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