Hi

> On Friday 27 April 2007 07:50, Dominique Leuenberger wrote:
> > I'm not sure a d1{gnome,kde}-*.iso is what I'd like to see in
> > openSUSE.

Thats your point of view - and I agree with you. But as we can see on
other distributions, the "overflow" of available applications
overburdens the "normal" user.

I like that idea of having:
- one "mini-CD" for network installation - containing just a base
system.
- one CD for a default KDE and one CD for a default Gnome-System. For me
this seems currently to be the biggest part of work, because of all the
dependencies. And I think we should review the current pattern files to
see if they contain unneeded applications.
- one DVD5 (or DVD9) for the "advanced users" that like the distribution
"as is".

If a user adds the official openSUSE repository, he can get more
applications - and even patterns. ...and if someone likes to help in the
buildservice, we can add patterns there, too.


On Fr 27 April 2007 16:00 Rajko M. wrote:
> It might be good to analyze software piece by piece, that might
> benefit
> discusion to move from opinions to facts, and help both desktops to
> look
> better and be more functional. 
> 
> But, who is going to start? 
> We can't get one man to make a list of educational software that
> should be
> reviewed, which is smaller task than all of the openSUSE. 

BTW: 

http://software.opensuse.org/download/Education:/desktop/openSUSE_Factory/i586/patterns-education-desktop-0-2.1.i586.rpm
=> the first package containing Desktop patterns is already there.
(Please don't install this package, this is just a "meta-Package".)

I think we have something like a "chicken or the egg problem" here:
without any examples we can't reach the normal user. Without reaching
the normal user, we can't get a "cool solution"... ;-)


> The tool is there - openSUSE wiki, we just have to find the way to use
> it.

Yes!

Greetings,
Lars

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