Bryen

I don't know what arrangements were made between open-slx and the board more 
over where the board relate with the community. 

This is a brand I love as much as everybody else and have been involved with 
for more than 5 years.

I have been in the #suse irc channel helping out for over 5 years now also in 
the mailing list and also as an importer of the retail brand and have only been 
dealing with open-slx for little over a month.

I would prefer the community the board and open-slx work together.  I am not 
looking to cause trouble but if I can be an extra voice to bridge a gap sure I 
will help out. 

I will email Stephan at Open-SLX and ask generally when he requires the images 
to be ready.

I am sure he should tell the community or the board when his deadlines are and 
if the community don't design one then they can offer suggestions. Or if they 
are responsible then put them out to the community and let them vote but we are 
today near as damit 09/02/2011 and release day as 10/03/2011 so we have 30 days 
until release.

Allowing two weeks for marketing that leaves the community to design, vote and 
submit designs to the board and open-slx.

Either way all three parties should work together and clearly this didn't 
happen for 11.3 and are in great danger of again not happening with 11.4.

I should also say that I didn't say the images are done already just a 
suggested eta of when I should have them so I can start promoting 11.4 over 
11.3.

I also have had problems contacting Stephan finding only the [email protected] 
email generates a response.

I don't know what went on previously because I guess it didn't filter down to 
the main #suse channel.

But time is running out I am not an artist but if anything needs doing and I 
can help I will.

Stuart
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Bryen M. Yunashko" <[email protected]>
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 17:23:11 
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] DVD cover for 11.4

On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 23:05 +0000, [email protected] wrote:
> I personaly look forward to seeing what the community can come up with but I 
> wonder given that we are a month away from release and that Stephan told me 
> the designs would be ready two to three weeks before launch only gives the 
> community a week to produce a design they are happy with is that enough time?
> 
> Stuart 
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> 
Two problems with that statement:

1.  They completely circumvented the community on the 11.3 design and
that caused an uproar.  They agreed after to work with the marketing and
artwork teams on this.    I reached out directly to them, as a board
member, a month ago to remind them of this promise.  And they have yet
to do anything.  And now, from you, I hear for the first time that they
are going ahead with whatever design they have with no time frame for us
to work on this.   This is a slap in the face of community work.  And
quite typical of openslx's tendency to hijack portions of the community.
Just look what they did to German OWN today!

2.  The question is not whether we come up with a design they're happy
with.  Its whether they come up with a design WE'Re happy with.   We're
the ones that are going to go around all over the world delivering Promo
DVDs.  That Promo DVD is our calling card.  And to shove a design into
our hands without any discussion and we have no choice or collaboration
in the matter is not acceptable.   

Javier's attempts to bring this up for discussion is not about us
getting to the game late.  Its about picking up where openSLX should
have a month ago.

Bryen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Bryen M. Yunashko" <[email protected]>
> Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2011 16:17:26 
> To: <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [opensuse-marketing] DVD cover for 11.4
> 
> On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 20:02 +0100, Bruno Friedmann wrote:
> > On 02/08/2011 06:35 PM, Javier Llorente wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > 
> > > I think it's time to begin designing the DVD cover for 11.4. Got any 
> > > suggestions? Add them here :-)
> > > 
> > > It should have some celadon green + some stripes.
> > > 
> > > Cheers,
> > 
> > Didn't the openSLX guys doing it, or this time there's more collaboration 
> > on that subject ?
> > 
> > If it's green and didn't have stripes (which doesn't print well) I'm in 
> > favor of :-)
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 
> > Bruno Friedmann
> > Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch
> 
> No, openSLX should not be "handling" it on their own.  They should be
> checking in with us first.  They did it on their own for 11.3 and their
> design was massively against our branding.  There was a big uproar about
> that.   For now, we need to discuss and agree on the design and then
> include openSLX in that design discussion ASAP.   openSLX may be the
> ones that are creating the DVD boxes, but they're also printing the DVD
> Promos and those Promos are what we the marketing and ambassador teams
> use to reach out to the community.   The cover design has to reflect our
> desires appropriately.
> 
> Bryen
> 
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