James,  you truly rock with your dead-on responses below.  Its going to
be great having you join us at the hackfest.   These are excellent
talking points and should definitely be incorporated into
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Talking_points

See you next week.  Will be good to finally meet you.

Bryen

On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 11:10 -0800, James Mason wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 00:59 +0530, Manu Gupta wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > What does openSUSE focus on
> > 
> > 1. Do we focus on Desktop?
> 
> Yes
> 
> > 2. Do we focus on Servers?
> 
> Yes
> 
> > 3. We say we focus on balance,but what does that actually mean?
> 
> It means that openSUSE is the *only* complete, well-rounded
> distribution.  Only openSUSE provides a single installation media that
> is equally suited to Servers, Virtual Servers, Workstations, Desktops,
> Laptops, Netbooks, Tablets.
> 
> > 
> > I ask this because 
> > 
> > 1. We are not as polished as a Desktop
> 
> In comparison to ?  More than one press outlet has reviewed openSUSE as
> having the cleanest KDE implementation.  And no other distro provides
> KDE, Gnome, LXDE, XFCE, IceWM, TWM, FVWM, all completely usable, all on
> one media.
> 
> > 
> > 2. Our life cycle is not suited for Servers / Sysadmins.
> 
> Our lifecycle is fine for servers.  I've been using it on servers since
> 7.2.  The choice to upgrade and stay current, or leave a running server
> as-is is up to the SysAdmin.
> 
> > 
> > 3. Nor are we exactly rolling releases, might be tumbleweed but there
> > are 100s of old packages too
> > 
> > I think we should be able to change that with 11.4 release atleast that
> > helps a lot. So if we do not decide it soon, we will certainly go under
> > an already existing identity crisis which is not good for the community.
> > 
> > We should regardless of anything, yes even the strategy (although more
> > alligned with it is preferable)  must have a few plans to focus on for
> > 11.4 release. Attracting a particular audience should change a lot of
> > perspective outside the community.
> > 
> > Regards
> > Manu
> > 
> 
> openSUSE is extremely flexible, and hides the inherent complexity of
> that under a layer of well-engineered tools (esp. YaST).  Our installer
> provides not just one-click options to choose desktop, but also
> one-click software patterns for LAMP stack, Kernel development, Ruby on
> Rails, etc.  No other distro offers that flexibility, and quality, in a
> single distribution.
> 
> Ubuntu, more than any other annoys me on this front.
> 
> Ubuntu guy: "Here's an Ubuntu CD.  It has a really easy to use desktop.
> Try it out!"
> Linux user: "Okay, but I prefer KDE."
> Ubuntu guy: "Okay, here's a Kubuntu CD instead."
> Linux user: "I noticed you didn't emphasize usability on the Kubuntu"
> Ubuntu guy: "Umm... its basically stock KDE."
> Linux user: "Okay, I also want to build a lightweight file server for my
> home network."
> Ubuntu guy: "Oh. Here's an Ubuntu server CD."
> Linux user: "My daughter is using an older laptop - can I try out LXDE
> on it with any of these 3 CDs?"
> Ubuntu guy: "No, but you can download Lubuntu.  But we don't support it,
> its not 'official'."
> Linux user: "What's that mean - I thought Ubuntu was free? What
> support?"
> Ubuntu guy: "You can buy support for the 'official' versions."
> Linux user: ":/"
> 
> 


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