On Martes, 15 de Febrero de 2011 20:12:27 Bryen M. Yunashko escribió:
> James,  you truly rock with your dead-on responses below.  Its going to
> be great having you join us at the hackfest.   These are excellent
> talking points and should definitely be incorporated into
> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Talking_points
> 
> See you next week.  Will be good to finally meet you.
> 
> Bryen
> 
> On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 11:10 -0800, James Mason wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-02-09 at 00:59 +0530, Manu Gupta wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > What does openSUSE focus on
> > >
> > > 1. Do we focus on Desktop?
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > > 2. Do we focus on Servers?
> >
> > Yes
> >
> > > 3. We say we focus on balance,but what does that actually mean?
> >
> > It means that openSUSE is the *only* complete, well-rounded
> > distribution.  Only openSUSE provides a single installation media that
> > is equally suited to Servers, Virtual Servers, Workstations, Desktops,
> > Laptops, Netbooks, Tablets.
> >
> > > I ask this because
> > >
> > > 1. We are not as polished as a Desktop
> >
> > In comparison to ?  More than one press outlet has reviewed openSUSE as
> > having the cleanest KDE implementation.  And no other distro provides
> > KDE, Gnome, LXDE, XFCE, IceWM, TWM, FVWM, all completely usable, all on
> > one media.
> >
> > > 2. Our life cycle is not suited for Servers / Sysadmins.
> >
> > Our lifecycle is fine for servers.  I've been using it on servers since
> > 7.2.  The choice to upgrade and stay current, or leave a running server
> > as-is is up to the SysAdmin.
> >
> > > 3. Nor are we exactly rolling releases, might be tumbleweed but there
> > > are 100s of old packages too
> > >
> > > I think we should be able to change that with 11.4 release atleast that
> > > helps a lot. So if we do not decide it soon, we will certainly go under
> > > an already existing identity crisis which is not good for the
> > > community.
> > >
> > > We should regardless of anything, yes even the strategy (although more
> > > alligned with it is preferable)  must have a few plans to focus on for
> > > 11.4 release. Attracting a particular audience should change a lot of
> > > perspective outside the community.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Manu
> >
> > openSUSE is extremely flexible, and hides the inherent complexity of
> > that under a layer of well-engineered tools (esp. YaST).  Our installer
> > provides not just one-click options to choose desktop, but also
> > one-click software patterns for LAMP stack, Kernel development, Ruby on
> > Rails, etc.  No other distro offers that flexibility, and quality, in a
> > single distribution.
> >
> > Ubuntu, more than any other annoys me on this front.
> >
> > Ubuntu guy: "Here's an Ubuntu CD.  It has a really easy to use desktop.
> > Try it out!"
> > Linux user: "Okay, but I prefer KDE."
> > Ubuntu guy: "Okay, here's a Kubuntu CD instead."
> > Linux user: "I noticed you didn't emphasize usability on the Kubuntu"
> > Ubuntu guy: "Umm... its basically stock KDE."
> > Linux user: "Okay, I also want to build a lightweight file server for my
> > home network."
> > Ubuntu guy: "Oh. Here's an Ubuntu server CD."
> > Linux user: "My daughter is using an older laptop - can I try out LXDE
> > on it with any of these 3 CDs?"
> > Ubuntu guy: "No, but you can download Lubuntu.  But we don't support it,
> > its not 'official'."
> > Linux user: "What's that mean - I thought Ubuntu was free? What
> > support?"
> > Ubuntu guy: "You can buy support for the 'official' versions."
> > Linux user: ":/"
> 


I did read an openSUSE Ecosystem article by James Mason some time ago. It is 
one of the best article I have ever read about openSUSE Project. It's has a 
very didactic vision. And I think it would be very useful to bring it back 
fresh and make it available for marketing talks with James permission.

Regards, 
-- 
Ricardo Chung | openSUSE Linux Ambassador
a.k.a. amonthoth
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