Hello,

on Donnerstag, 24. Mai 2007, Frank Sundermeyer wrote:
> http://en.test.opensuse.org/
[...]
> Styles Not Defined Yet:
> This is a list of styles MediaWiki generates that I have not covered,
> yet, because I wasn't able to find out on which pages they are used.
> Maybe you can help me here.

You can help yourself. Just define these styles with
    border: 5px solid red;
    background: red;
and wait for bugreports ;-))

> Content Elements:
> I am planning to add useful classes to the CSS, like the command-line
> style (.shell). Please add whatever you find useful to this page
> (with inline css) and discuss them on this list. I will add the ones
> we all agree upon.

I already mentioned some options for <pre> blocks in my last mail and 
just included them on the Content Elements Page (section "Proposals for 
<pre>")

> The "this page in other languages" stuff is currently not working - I
> hope to be able to fix this soon.
>
> If a page exists in other languages, you will either see a drop down
> box in the gray page header (where the edit, discussion links are) -
> requires JavaScript -

Can you add something like "--- other languages ---" as very first 
option? It should be selected by default instead of the first available 
language.

This would make the meaning of the dropdown clear.

> or an additional box in the left nav when JavaScript is disabled.

Nice usecase for <noscript> ;-)

> Thanks for all your feedback in advance! 

I was a bit late in checking and Francis and Rajko already found nearly 
all bugs I noticed ;-) and I can only highlight the most important 
things:
- the contents box needs a better look, a background image like in the
  Fedora wiki would be a nice idea
- grey boxes are too light-grey (nearly displayed as white on my laptop)


A minor bug I just found is in the Content_Elements page, 
section ".center":

    The code looks like this: 
    <span class="center">...Content...</div>

-> Is <span> or <div> correct? Please fix the example ;-)


A word about highlighting of links:
- you can remove the underline (text-decoration:none) _as long as the 
  link color differs from text color_ [1] or just allow the browser 
  default in this case (no text-decoration statement)
- a:hover should always be underlined
- I don't really like the current style (underline non-visited links 
  only by default) - please use different colors for visited links 
  instead.

Please read also my rants in the footnotes ;-)


Regards,

Christian Boltz

[1] but you should _not_ define black font color for links and skip the
    text-decoration:underline. If you do this and someone (like me) has 
    changed the browser defaults to display the underline only on
    :hover, searching for links is like searching for easter eggs.
    Unfortunately, this can be tested on *.novell.com :-(  [2]

[2] Yes, I have reported this, both via the feedback link (I got
    a "thanks for your hint", but nothing more) and via bugzilla 
    https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=141494
    Basically I was told to change my browser settings there :-/ which
    isn't an option because usability of a website should never depend 
    on the browser settings. [3]
    AFAIK there's a bugzilla component for the Novell website, but I 
    don't have access to it. Can someone @SUSE please reopen the bug and 
    reassign it to the Novell webmaster, please?

[3] I also like to change the default colors to yellow background with 
    violet font color - a good method to find undefined colors ;-)
    (BTW: The new openSUSE page passed this test :-)

-- 
Ein gutes Logo ist wie ein Butler:
Es ist immer da, wird aber nicht bemerkt.
[Ratti]
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