Hallo, Am Montag, 4. Juni 2007 schrieb Frank Sundermeyer: > On Sunday 03 June 2007 21:12, Christian Boltz wrote: > > once again, thank you VERY much for your feedback. Seems we are > reaching our goal very fast!
Yes, but your changes discovered some new bugs ;-) > > on Donnerstag, 31. Mai 2007, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: > > > On Thursday 24 May 2007 18:07, Frank Sundermeyer wrote: > > > > http://en.test.opensuse.org/ > > > Non-existing Page Link Colour in Top Navigation: > Modified the colour and made visited/new non-existing links the same > colour (after all, non-existing is non-existing ;-) ). Hope it's at > least slightly better now. Yes, thanks. > > > Footer: > > > * I don't think we can remove text, nor does it make sense to > > > combine two lines in one. > > > > Can you add some max-width then? Especially the first line would > > benefit from it. (The goal should be to have the "The content on > > ..." line as two lines with nearly equal length, which should be > > possible independent of the font size when using the "em" unit for > > max-width.) > > This does not work (or at least I am not able to make it work). Without having looked at the code: What exactly is the problem? (And: don't expect IE to understand max-width [don't know about IE7]) > Have added a linebreak, this also does the trick (at least for > reasonable font sizes/screen resolutions). OK, acceptable workaround. (But max-width would still be better.) > > > Search Box: > > > * I would prefer to leave the round corners (they are the same as > > > the ones used for the boxes) > > > > round corners are OK, but they look to rounded at the search box... > > > > Apropos search box: It seems it has a hardcoded height: which is > > unfortune for people who have a very large font size. > > Without the fixed height, I do not see a way to make the round > corners work in IE (at least not in IE 5.x)... . Then define the fixed height for IE only please ;-) > > Oh, and the layout has some problems on very large fonts in the > > header (tested with 300% in Konqueror - one of my favorite stress > > tests for websites ;-) > > > > The same problems appear with smaller font size when the window > > isn't wide enough to display the top menu (home page, My talk, > > Preferences etc.) in one line. > > > > Oh, and the Article/Discussion/Edit/... menu bar can hide the > > language selector on big fonts and/or too small window size. > > OK, "white-space: nowrap" fixed that problem. Yes. > > Additionally, the left column width should be specified in em also. > > Otherwise the menu can overlap the content on high font sizes. > > Yup, fixed that, too. Too good, 1em less would be enough ;-) Now to the problems this change discovered in combination with large font size - see screenshot on www.cboltz.de/tmp/opensuse-disco.png ;-) - on small screens there will be an openSUSE Disco ;-)) because "Discover it" is cut off" - the search box and the "Go" button are also cut off - OTOH, there's enough whitespace (to be exact: greenspace ;-) unused around these elements - so there's no real need to cut them off - The Article / Discussion / ... bar only uses the half width, causing too much unneeded linebreaks All unused white- or greenspace is marked with red color in my screenshot. > > > Content Table Background: > > > * according to Novell brand guidelines the Geeko tail as well > > > as the Geeko head should no longer be used, so I run out of > > > background graphics matching the theme (and on the other hand I > > > do not like copying Fedora ;) ). I have now changed the > > > background to light green, but I am not sure whether this is > > > better... > > > > The main problem I see are the thick top and bottom border lines. > > Can you make them less visible? (for example thinner) > > Made the lines thinner and added a tail graphic - seems I was wrong > regarding head and tail - they are still present on www.novell.com Much better :-) > > Also a note should be added to div.pre_hscroll saying that this > > should not be used for code that does not fit on the screen without > > scrolling. (Or make div.pre_hscroll a copy of div.pre_scroll with > > larger height to auto-enforce this rule.) > > Another good point - I set the max. height to 25em and added a > warning to the description. Hmm, is the warning really correct? <pre> with a horizontal scrollbar. Maximum height is 25em. Please _do not_ use the regular <pre> if your text does not fit the box. I would say Please _do_ use the regular <pre> (remove the "not") > > Another thing I just noticed: please add some whitespace after > > <div> - the next headline is too close to it. > > Screenshot: www.cboltz.de/tmp/div.png > > This has to be defined within the individual, additional classes for > div, otherwise the whole layout will break. Since there should be no > need to use a regular div within the content area (use p instead), > this should be OK. OK, so <div> is reserved as freestyle element ;-) in the hope that nearly nobody uses it... > > > http://en.test.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Special:Allpages > > > * I have absolutely no idea why the tables do not use the whole > > > page width - this is why the list of all pages is messed up. > > > Unfortunately no special style is created on this page, so there > > > is no workaround. Please help! > > > > Hmm, what about adding some padding (left and right) to <td> and > > <th> in general? > > > > This would also make normal tables in the content area looking > > better (see the table on Tag_Formatting which looks quite > > squeezed). > > Yes, seems to be the only solution It seems you added some padding-right to <td> now. Please have a look at the table on http://en.test.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Tagformatting and then add some padding-left also. Oh, and please apply the same padding to <th> ;-) Hmm, just curious: Special:Allpages has no borders at the table, Tagformatting has borders. So there *must* be a difference somewhere... Another thing that was mentioned some time ago, but obviously got lost: The grey boxes should use a slightly darker grey. The current one is nearly invisible on white (especially on laptop displays). Oh, and is there a special reason why the footer in the green double box http://en.test.opensuse.org/index.php?title=Structural_Elements#Double_Boxes doesn't have white text color? I doubt ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- An NT server can be run by an idiot, and usually is. [Tom Holub,a.h.b-o-u] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
