-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Berni Elbourn wrote: > Renegade Penguin wrote: >> Sell your services separately, give OpenSUSE away freely. This is >> indeed a valid method of complying with the license. >> Also, if the same licensing clause applies in the paid version of >> SUSE, the same methodology applies. In that case, SELL the software >> separately from the services. Unbundling the two manages to satisfy >> all conditions quite nicely. >> It's good to note that Berni has been a customer of SUSE for years. >> Good too see people supporting Open Source companies. > > I can see what your saying and I am sure this can happen. However, the > intention of the license is to stop this so we should.
Berni, that is *your* *interpretation* of the license. As someone said on the list, contact an official from Novell to confirm or infirm this in your particuliar case, and don't make interpretations of such text while not being a lawyer. More specifically, a few people have replied quite informative content on this, but it seems you're not reading it, and keep on throwing *your* interpretation of the license at everyone. It's perfectly fine you raise the question, the outcome would interest me as well, but you did the one thing you shouldn't do. It's ever recurring tactics to pressure people who feel good about the community (openSUSE, in this case), actually like and want to spread the word, invest their time into it, ... by telling them stuff like "it sucks", "if it cannot do blabla then I use yaddayadda", etc... This _is_ offensive. Obviously any constructive criticism is more than welcome, anything that can make both the openSUSE community and the SUSE Linux (OSS or not) distribution better, and basically your request falls into that. But not the way you wrote your mail. Definately not. - From your mail, I really get the feeling you were pretty much pissed off when you wrote it. That's understandable given the interpretation of the license _you_ are making for yourself. But if you want to be pissed off at someone, contact some Novell sales representative, don't throw that into the openSUSE community's face. If you want the customer to pay for SUSE Linux, then tell them to buy SUSE Linux boxes themselves. If you want to sell SUSE Linux boxes to them and make money from it, then become a Novell retail partner. If you just want them to have/use SUSE Linux and offer your services based on that, tell them to download the SUSE Linux OSS ISOs or burn them and give'm away yourself. The services you provide have nothing to do with giving away SUSE Linux OSS media. The one point that would need clarification is the hardware+SUSE Linux combo, i.e. you're selling hardware (PCs, whatever) to your customers, with an added value, and preinstall SUSE Linux on it. I really don't expect any issues when preinstalling SUSE Linux OSS. For SUSE Linux (non-OSS), it might be a different story. Where do you see a conflict with what is stated in the license ? I mean the *full text*, including the paragraphs Marcus Meissner pointed you to: http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Oct/1016.html And yes, IANAL, and I'm not working for Novell either. So contact a sales representative from Novell to get an "official" statement. cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDTEkAr3NMWliFcXcRAqtnAJ4zivh5O5adbgyWQIZrdrJLX4M34ACgoT46 VECZn5OZWr0On2ARGQ7D8SY= =2zne -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
