Hello,

Am Sonntag, 12. Februar 2006 21:23 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
> On Sunday, February 12, 2006 at 20:45:21, Christian Boltz wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 12. Februar 2006 20:04 schrieb Henne Vogelsang:
> > > http://lists4.opensuse.org/opensuse/
> >
> > looks nice ;-)
>
> Good :)

But houghi's idea looks even better ;-)

BTW: I had a short look at the template files - I think it is possible 
to have a CSS-based layout instead of tables.

> > (I guess you'll make / nicer, too ;-)
>
> What? I dont understand that sentence.

http://lists4.opensuse.org/ currently uses a plain apache directory 
index - it should be some nice html. (Or maybe a tuned version of 
directory index to show new folders automatically ;-)

[...]
> > (You also can't cache the indexes on the server because they change
> > with every new message.)
>
> Thats what you get when you work with variable sources. I dont care
> about caching..

OK, it's your server that could explode ;-)
If you like to rebuilt all index pages of the current month when a new 
mail arrives, do it...

> > Additionally, the URL of the message list containing a specific
> > thread will change all over the time because the newest one is
> > numbered "1", the next "2" etc. - that's not a good thing.
>
> Can you elaborate that? I dont get what youre talking about...

Hmm, I was quite sure to see a "newest first" sort order - did you 
change that?

What I meant (given the "newest first" search order: a mail that is 
listed on the first page will be on the second page some days later (as 
new mails move it down), then on the third etc.

> > Additionally, I don't like the restriction to 100 mails per page -
> > people will loose much time by clicking "next".
>
> What would you say is a reasonable amount of mails?

Your new value 500 is already better. I even thought about the whole 
month as in the lists.suse.com archives.

> > Another idea would be to have only the first mail of a thread
> > displayed ("thread start" view) - but I guess this isn't that easy
> > ;-)
>
> Thats certainly possible but i dont think this is a good idea. Not
> with the amount of thread hijacking we see.

Good point, but the question is what would hit us more:
- "loosing" some mails because of thread hijacking   or
- having unhandy index pages with all replies

I think the advantage of a "thread start" view is more important.

> > Some thoughts and possible enhancements when displaying a single
> > message:
> > - can you show the Message-ID? It's very useful for searching for a
> >   specific mail ;-)
>
> The search engine will have an option to seach only for message-id.

Is it difficult to display the Message-ID in the rendered HTML?
If not, allow Google to search for Message-IDs also ;-)

> > - can you highlight the current mail in the "This thread" column?
>
> Will do.

OK.

> > - is quote highlighting possible?
>
> I dont know. I have to look into that.

Good luck ;-)


Regards,

Christian Boltz
-- 
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> Linux-Server über ncpmount auf die Ordner eines Novell-Servers zu.
> [...] Eine Datei mit Namen "Besprechung BMI - Microsoft Select
> Verträge.pdf" wird nicht angezeigt.
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