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The Friday 2006-03-24 at 00:58 +0100, Pascal Bleser wrote:

> > The "hows" is something I don't understand and don't care about much. I
> > can not read and _understand_ licenses, anyway.
> 
> It's quite simple, actually. Pine is not OpenSource Software.
> It is not by the OSS definition of OSI [1] and hence, it is not OSS.
> The U&W license violates several OSS license criterias of OSI.
> [1] http://opensource.org/
> 
> (and it's only "opensource" when it complies with OSI's definition of
> OSS, it's not a matter of "how I call it" ;))

If you say so, I'll believe you O:-)


> Read my original mail for more details:
> http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2006-Mar/0351.html

I did, days ago. Nevertheless, I still say that I can not claim to read 
and _understand_ licenses, any of them - not even GPL. It's over my head. 
The moment they start the legalesse, I drop asleep :-p

> As I wrote in an earlier mail, it's not about being picky or
> "debianesque", it's just that SUSE Linux OSS is dubbed as being a 100%
> OpenSource distribution. And pine+pico are _not_ OpenSource. That's all.
> So either have U&W change their license (which I doubt, we won't be the
> first asking them to do so) or move pine to the non-OSS ISO.

As I said, as long as I can get it from SuSE somewhere, in the dvd, in 
another ftp tree, whatever, that's fine with me.

> Jürgen, had any update on pine ?
> (seems we all agree that pico can be replaced by nano)

I haven't tried "nano", it is not included in S.9.3. I don't know if Pine 
can be compiled without pico, or if it is completely stand alone.


- -- 
Cheers,
       Carlos Robinson
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