On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 05:29:22PM -0400, Marcel Mourguiart wrote:
> What i repeat a hundred times if is necessary , is that have the nvidia
> driver in the same server is not the same to have it together and _linked_
> with the kernel, nvidia drivers are not _illegal by it self, is illegal to
> distribute this driver all together with the kernel.
And how do you build kernel modules without including the kernel headers? Do
a favour for yourself, buy a book about C programming and learn some basics or
just stop talking about stuff you don't understand. If you do neither of what
I suggested here I will stop discussing this topic with you now because I have
given up that you will ever get it.
> By the way, in Suse SLED 10 if push the botton in your desktop to install
> GLX and you have a nvidia card, the program install the nvidia driver ... is
> the illegal too ?
I am not sure about that. I'd recommend you ask a lawyer for that question.
> So please call the kernel developers too, because the _illegal_ software is
> in that server too:
>
> http://mirrors.kernel.org/suse/i386/10.1/inst-source-extra/suse/i586/smartlink-softmodem-kmp-default-2.9.10_2.6.16.13_4-44.i586.rpm
> http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-modules-i386/
1. mirrors.kernel.org is not "the kernel developers".
Where do you get the kernel source when is release it ?? is not that server, and is not in the same server the non-free _illegal_ kernel modules ?? So according to yours theory, wish a ever ever have listen it before, the entire kernel just have broke the GPL because have this modules in the same server.
I know, i must ask a lawyer about that too and if he doesn't know and just tell me, "it could be" what i must assume is "it is".
2. You still failed to show which package in
.../debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-modules-i386/ does include the
nVidia kernel binary module.
Here is it, the last one is original driver from nvidia.
http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-glx_1.0.8774-2_i386.deb
http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-kernel-source_1.0.8774-2_i386.deb
http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/non-free/n/nvidia-graphics-drivers/nvidia-graphics-drivers_1.0.8774.orig.tar.gz
Know the description:
Package: nvidia-glx
Version: 1.0.8774-2
*Section: non-free/x11*
Priority: optional
Architecture: i386
*Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.8774, x11-common (>= 1:7.0.0), libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6), libx11-6, libxext6*
Suggests: nvidia-settings, nvidia-kernel-source (>= 1.0.8774)
Conflicts: nvidia-glx-src
Replaces: nvidia-glx-src
Provides: xserver-xorg-video-1.0
Installed-Size: 10620
Maintainer: Randall Donald < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: nvidia-graphics-drivers
*Description: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver*
These XFree86 4.0 / Xorg binary drivers provide optimized hardware
acceleration of OpenGL applications via a direct-rendering X Server.
AGP, PCIe, SLI, TV-out and flat panel displays are also supported.
You can read this in \usr\share\doc\nvidia-glx\copyright when you install the driver:
"
> My name is Randall Donald and I am the maintainer for the Debian
> downloader packages nvidia-glx-src and nvidia-kernel-src.
> As stated in your license and the README file
> ( "As indicated in the NVIDIA Software License, Linux distributions
> are welcome to repackage and redistribute the NVIDIA Linux driver in
> whatever package format they wish." )
> I wish to include packages containing the Linux driver files in the Debian archive.
> I'd like to know if it is legally permitted to distribute binary kernel modules
> compiled from the NVIDIA kernel module source and Debian kernel headers.
This is fine; thanks for asking.
"
3. I already tried you to explain to you that you cannot argue that something
is legal just because others do it but it seems you just don't get that.
No i don't because you have fail to explain why can't you have a non-free kernel module in the same server, where is the kernel. Not a explanation, not a example, just nothing i just must take your words like a absolutely true, because .. well i don't know, because your name is Robert ? Oh no, i just remember is because i don't get a clue about GPL
Is ibiblio against GPL ?? because i'm truly sure they have the kernel in that server and they have some non-free _illegal_ kernel modules somewhere.
I just hope, there is no terrible _illegal_ kernel modules in this directory either:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/
And if suse/novell remove all non-free kernel modules in future release, is just doesn't matter, because according to you, they can't have those module in the same server.
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Marcel Mourguiart
