Hi,

On Saturday, November 04, 2006 at 08:04:55, HG wrote:
> On 11/3/06, Kevin Donnelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >It's certainly interesting!  Presumably, because of the patent ceasefire,
> >openSUSE will be able to legally include Windows codecs (or at least links 
> >to
> >download them) in the distro?  That should certainly please a lot of people
> >on this list who have been complaining about their multimedia in the past 
> 
> Do you really think that MS will give the codecs? Yes, but only with
> DRM.

Video/Audio codecs have nothing to do with DRM. The question is what the
heck do we want with windows media codecs? Theres no real need to have
them. We should and we do embrace patent free audio/video codecs with
openSUSE. Thats the way to go.

> I am personally giving SUSE time until that. When my rights are
> digitally restricted on SUSE, then I'm gone.

We all will be gone if that happens...
 
> Did you guys read Groklaw?

Sure. What about it? You mean all the pieces that reduce all this to
"Software Patents or not"? I was sure form the beginning that this will
happen[1]. You cant take the word patents in the mouth without beeing evil.
There is no real discussion going on in the OS community anymore. How we
can break this shitty system. Theres only camp building. Either youre
with us or you are member of the "axis of evil". Makes me not want to
participate in this discussion anymore. I personally hate this
discussion style even more than the patent system itself. Thanks to GW
to make this style presentable...

Henne

[1] Of course also because this is a business decision and apparently
"they" dont seem to get that we hate the patent system and want to
avoid having to deal with it at all. Saying "look we wont sue you
anymore" is a slap in the face if you dont find that suing because of a
patent is justified at all.

-- 
Henne Vogelsang,      http://hennevogel.de
"To die. In the rain. Alone."
                   Ernest Hemingway
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