-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Zhang Weiwu wrote: > I think I have called enough attention (and created a lot of confusion) > to the mp3 issue, thank you for caring about this and discuss about it. > As more people start paying attention on issues the issues are likely > getting solved faster. And this post is for the users who look for an
Listen, your post was pretty high on the trollmeter, and "As more people start paying attention on issues the issues are likely getting solved faster."... wth ? - - unless you use Ogg/Vorbis, the issue isn't solved and is never going to be solved; the only "solution" right now is Helix or fluendo (through a piece of junk named gstreamer) - - you really think you're the first person asking for this ? And the solution is right here: http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/10.2 > answer like me: > > List of players that play mp3 by default: > * MPlayer (from packman) > * VLC (video lan client, from their repository) > * realplay Be careful not to add the SUSE repository on videolan.org to the package manager. Until Dominique renames "libmad" to "mad", it is going to cause havoc if you also add the Packman and/or the Guru repository. > BMP (no known easy solution yet): > people who failed to play mp3 with BMP simply has installed > OpenSuSE's bmp (bmp-0.9.7.1-43.i586.rpm) which have mp3 ability > stripped. I was told packman offer a BMP package with mp3 > support ( > http://packman.links2linux.de/package/bmp > I failed to install this package because it has no SuSE 10.2 > version. It rely on a .so file that do not exist on my SuSE > 10.2. So, currently there are yet no known solution to play mp3 > with BMP without using commandline. Just install http://opensuse-community.org/Amarok > There is also a package called audacious which is a fork of BMP, > however for me it doesn't play mp3 as well, YMMV. Should work though -- I guess you didn't install audacious-plugins: http://packman.links2linux.org/search/audacious > Banshee (said there is an easy solution, but doesn't work for me. YMMV) > SuSE's native banshee package do not support mp3, a replacement > package helix-banshee is said to support it. This package is > said to be only existing on DVD version's non-oss section. I > didn't install by DVD (I use network install) and for me the > helix-banshee package do not exist even in opensuse's Internet's > non-oss repository. I managed to get and installed a > helix-banshee package from > > ftp.opensuse.org/distribution/SL-Factory-non-oss/inst-source-extra/suse/i586/helix-banshee-0.11.2-27.i586.rpm > (but I don't know why today it's no logner there). Indeed, it has suddenly disappeared from all repositories: http://benjiweber.co.uk:8080/webpin/index.jsp?searchTerm=helix&distro=10.2 BTW, wrong URL, the non-oss repository for 10.2 is: http://ftp.skynet.be/pub/ftp.opensuse.org/opensuse/distribution/10.2/repo/non-oss (other mirrors are listed on http://opensuse.org) (but helix-banshee has disappeared from it, or was never there, dunno, I'm using amarok) > This package installs fine but still not able to play mp3. Maybe some of you > who successfully made banshee work can let > us know where you get which rpm that works. On a side note, helix-banshee _replaces_ the banshee package. Or at least so it did. > If it's true this rpm only exist on DVD version, can we do > something to encourage Novell to put it to the non-oss section > on offical repository? It was supposed to be in there, AFAICR. > Totem, Rhythmbox, xmms (easy solution avaiable!) > There are easy solution avaiable! But I don't know what. My > Totem can play mp3 just fine, my Rhythmbox also, but I knew a > fresh SuSE installation cannot. I have installed a lot of xmms is dead, get over it. Rhythmbox isn't too far away from being dead either. > packages I googled around for mp3 support and now I don't know > which package made mp3 possible. I removed these packages from > my system but Totem and Rhythmbox still play mp3 file so these > packages should not be responsible for mp3: > gstreamer010-plugins-ugly > helix-banshee-engine-gst > xine-lib > libxine Install libxine1 from Packman (which replaces xine-lib from SUSE) to have MP3 support (and a few other closed formats) in all players that use the Xine engine (which includes Amarok). > I also tried to remove totem and re-install it when disabling > packman repository (only to find out if I am using packman's > totem). Being sure I am using OpenSuSE oss' totem, I am still > able to play mp3. I am really eager to know which package > enabled Rhythmbox and Totem, because I am going to recommend > other users to use these packages. Totem is probably using the Xine engine (just like Amarok), and the libxine1 package from Packman is the reason MP3 playback works, not the totem or amarok version itself. > I knew solution must be easy because when I was trying to solve > this problem recent days I strictly control myself only use > google and GUI so that all solutions I can find must be usable > for novice users. > > Reference resources: You forgot: http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/10.2 > how to enable mp3 playback on xine-based players: > http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=509097 > > Listed all restricted formats that stripped from SuSE (but not include > all solutions to workaround them, maybe for legal concern): > http://en.opensuse.org/Restricted_Formats The point is, we _may not_ post the solutions on opensuse.org for legal reasons. > P.S. I hope we do not forget to mention in all messages posted about > solving mp3 problems: that if possible, use ogg which has higher quality > and is always playable on all Linux and a lot of players on Windows too. > > P.S. I am no specialist in this area (just an user) but I think simply > blame Novell for not having mp3 native support in OpenSuSE is not very > helpful for solving this problem (when most of the fault is on the mp3 > patent holder not Novell). Novell need to know exactly what way users > expect them to do in order to follow, a unclear request of "give us mp3 > support" to my understanding is not the best. I suggest we have clear True. And I'm pretty sure they're aware of the problem with all the details involved. It's not like it's something new. > request like this: > 1. Can novell help us by making Helix-banshee the default banshee > package in OpenSuSE? Non-OSS packages should not be the default. Non-OSS packages are kept in the non-oss repository and on the non-oss addon CD. You wouldn't want to make those mandatory. > 2. Can novell help user live easier by making non-oss another > default installation source? (yes I am among the people who > dislike closed source too) That could be an option, at least the installer could prompt for it. > 3. Can novell let us know how they _tried_ to get related parties > to agree SuSE use mp3 for free, and if the community can do > anything to help? I'm not sure that information may be disclosed. > 4. Can novell give user friendly message on most cases when it > cannot play mp3, to ask user to visit a how-to guide on a > website maintained by community? This how to guide must be That means heavy patching on a lot of media player applications. Not feasible, or rather, not maintainable IMO. > complete and easy and with screenshots, hosted on a website in > China or any other countries where copyright and patents are > difficult to enforce. I would do that if requested, I am in > China. Not needed, we already have http://opensuse-community.org/ http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats http://opensuse-community.org/Restricted_Formats/10.2 cheers - -- -o) Pascal Bleser http://linux01.gwdg.de/~pbleser/ /\\ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _\_v The more things change, the more they stay insane. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFFvuPgr3NMWliFcXcRAn2SAJ4o8Lqs9W3MeVzft7cGEBPCK58BLgCeKXmk D0UwmlTNPUOvZuwUBQtyZyA= =0TXX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
