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The Saturday 2007-03-03 at 14:22 +0100, Sandy Drobic wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > Could it be... could it be that someone subscribes, perhaps in a business,
> > he goes somewhere else, leaving the subscription, then someone voids the
> > address, mail accumulates, the postmaster sees it, and thinks of rejecting
> > it "then", after some months have accumulated?
>
> Not likely. The mails all came from a dynamic ip, so it's very unlikely
> that this is a regular server (German T-Com is disconnecting every 24h AND
> issuing different ip addresses every time on reconnect):
> p549B18A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de
> 84.155.24.162
>
> The usual time email is kept in the queue until it is discarded as
> undeliverable is only a few days (Postfix has a default of 5 days). No, it
> is likely an experiment gone bad. Otherwise the mails wouldn't have come
> in such a batch all at once.
It isn't simple to track it. Let me see the received headers of the
"Undelivered Message" in reverse order (ie, up-down):
Received: from lists4.suse.de (localhost [127.0.0.1])
by lists4.suse.de (Postfix) with SMTP id E458870811;
Mon, 1 Jan 2007 11:47:39 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from lists4.suse.de (lists4.suse.de [195.135.221.135])
by mailin.webmailer.de (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l01C0UMi005945
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:00:31 +0100 (MET)
I don't quite see why mail to growngizmo.de end at mailin.webmailer.de,
because "host" says:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> host growngizmo.de
growngizmo.de has address 81.169.145.69
growngizmo.de mail is handled by 10 mailin.rzone.de.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~> host mailin.webmailer.de
mailin.webmailer.de has address 192.67.198.32
mailin.webmailer.de has address 192.67.198.37
mailin.webmailer.de has address 192.67.198.48
mailin.webmailer.de mail is handled by 10 mailin.rzone.de.
Ah, both growngizmo.de and mailin.webmailer.de have mail handled by
mailin.rzone.de.
So we had:
Received: from lists4.suse.de (lists4.suse.de [195.135.221.135])
by mailin.webmailer.de (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id l01C0UMi005945
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 1 Jan 2007 13:00:31 +0100 (MET)
So mail arrived at the box on January, but he fetched it Yesterday:
Received: from post.strato.de [192.67.198.2]
by dothangizmo.gk.lan with POP3 (fetchmail-6.3.2)
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (single-drop); Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:42:57 +0100
(CET)
And the next step is local, but the user name has changed (typical with
postfix) to [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Received: from dothangizmo.gk.lan (localhost [IPv6:::1])
by dothangizmo.gk.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB14D6319
for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Sat, 3 Mar 2007 01:42:57 +0100 (CET)
X-Envelope-From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Envelope-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
X-Delivery-Time: 1167652831
The delivery time is huge. I think the mail was being collected at the ISP
box, and fetched yesterday during the early hours. What happened next I
have difficulty following; the would be received paragraph should be this
one (part 1):
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (expanded from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>): host
mailin.rzone.de[81.169.145.100] said: 550 5.0.0 Dial-Up IP address rejected
(in reply to RCPT TO command)
Maybe his postfix tried to send to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", instead of
taking it locally, as was intended. He is "growngizmo.de" (I think), but
his mail is handled by mailin.rzone.de, which refused his client being
dynamic... so finally, postfix, not knowing how to send to
"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" bounces back to us.
Does it sound reasonable?
> If I see any more of the crap I could try to get him on the phone, if the
> phonebook entry is valid.
Good luck :-)
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Cheers,
Carlos E. R.
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