On Thursday 12 April 2007 19:21, Benji Weber wrote:
> On 4/12/07, John Summerfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I've had enough of this list, I really do not like off-list replies to my
> > attempts to help people.
> >
> > They are bad because
> > 1. It breaks filtering (the list-id header is present in mail from the
> > list and it's sensible to use it to filter email).
> > 2. Other people can't see my errors and correct them. I'm not perfect.
> > 3. Other people can't see corrections to my errors and learn from them.
> > 4. Off-list replies don't get archived.
> > 5. It breaks threading. I like email one topic to be grouped into one
> > thread. Since most email clients support this feature, I suspect others
> > value it too.
>
> Quite.
>
> I frequently accidentally email people off-list due to the reply-to
> being not set to the list. Which I expect may be responsible for most
> of the off-list emailing. Default reply for many email clients is to
> reply off-list.

I have argued with many people regarding misconfigured lists over the years, 
and almost invariably they say "standards," while ignoring the paucity of 
email clients conforming to those "standards," often despite the fact that 
the list is hosted, as here, by the vendor who provides the software.

I use several distros, and for reasons unrelated to this list, I'll shortly be 
removing this one. The main reason I chose opensuse 10.2 was the notion it 
comes with support for my Atheros wireless in my laptop; as that's no longer 
the case I plan to switch to something else, and live with the need to fiddle 
with wireless.
>
> > I equate off-list with spam, and unless I specifically give you
> > permission to email me, you don't have the right.
>
> This is rediculous.

Not so ridiculous as you mailing to me off-list as you highlighted a reason 
for the problem. I could argue that spam is less inconvenient as there's only 
one way to deal with it: <plonk>.



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I'm outa here.

John Summerfield
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