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The Friday 2007-06-22 at 08:24 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Please, trim your emails of extra unneded lines...

> I guess I am implicitly assuming that if it is an ISO certified standard, it
> must be open. 

Not necesarily.

In many cases, you have got to pay, and not a little, in order to get a 
copy of an standard and use it (even patent fees). That may be reason 
enough for some companies not to adhere to them explicitly.

It depends on the organization, I suppose.


Some info here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_for_Standardization#ISO_document_copyright

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standardization
...
] Standards can be de facto, which means they are followed for 
] convenience, or de jure, which means they are used because of (more or 
] less) legally binding contracts and documents. Government agencies often 
] have to follow standards issued by official standardization 
] organizations. Following such standards can also be a prerequisite for 
] doing business on certain markets, with certain companies, or within 
] certain consortia.
]
] A standard can be open or proprietary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_standard

] An Open standard is a standard that is publicly available and has 
] various rights to use associated with it.
]
] The terms "open" and "standard" have a wide range of meanings associated 
] with their usage. The term "open" is sometimes restricted to 
] royalty-free technologies while the term "standard" is sometimes 
] restricted to technologies approved by formalized committees that are 
] open to participation by all interested parties and operate on a 
] consensus basis.
]
] Some definitions of the term "open standard" permit patent holders to 
] impose "reasonable and non-discriminatory" royalty fees and other 
] licensing terms on implementers and/or users of the standard. For 
] example, the rules for standards published by the major internationally 
] recognized standards bodies such as the ITU, ISO, and IEC permit 
] requiring patent licensing fees for implementation. However, the 
] definitions of the European Union and Danish government forbid open 
] standards to require fees for use. Permitting such license fees is 
] controversial, because these tend to forbid implementation as free/open 
] source software and discriminate against those who do not hold those 
] patents. Many definitions of the term "open standard" specifically 
] forbid any such fees.

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Cheers,
       Carlos E. R.

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