On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 12:23 -0500, Bryen wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 12:39 -0400, JP Rosevear wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 09:38 -0500, Bryen wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2007-10-23 at 09:31 -0500, Ness, Todd wrote:
> > > > I believe the issues is why are we being told we have a mandatory update
> > > > of opera on a system we do not have opera installed on?
> > > 
> > > Exactly!
> > > 
> > > I sent my screenshot of the updater and results from running zypper lu
> > > to Andreas directly since I'm not supposed to post attachments to the
> > > list here.
> > > 
> > > I also included the rpm -qa | grep Opera and rpm -qa | grep opera
> > > commands to prove that I do not have opera installed on my system.
> > > 
> > > Saying that this mandatory update is needed for other components other
> > > than Opera doesn't help matters much.  If we are indeed security
> > > conscious, then it is up to us to question the security of a security
> > > update.  Calling it Opera when you don't have opera installed rings a
> > > heck of alot of bells.  :-)
> > 
> > It looks like yast-gtk is defaulting to showing "all available patches"
> > instead of only applicable packages, we're poking it.
> > 
> > -JP
> > -- 
> > JP Rosevear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Novell, Inc.
> > 
> It does raise some interesting questions, and if I can add to the
> "poking" a bit here.  I changed the default preference in the applet to
> treat Recommended Updates as "Additional" rather than "Mandatory".
> 
> Now I get an orange sun-shaped icon notification rather than the red
> triangle notification.  Fair enough.
> 
> But the Opera update is still listed in the update details.  To me,
> that's a separate issue from the default preference issue.  I don't
> think updater should list any updates that don't apply to anything that
> doesn't exist on the current user's system.

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough, I was talking about the details view
options.  It wasn't quite that but once I looked, but its unrelated to
the updater applet.

> Also, zypper lu shows a different list of updates, as Todd indicated
> earlier in his posting, and I'm seeing the same list on my system.
> Since the updater and zypper use the same library and scan the same
> enabled repositories, why is the result different?
> 
> Just posing these questions, not trying to be challenging or
> antagonistic.  :-)

Its because the logic for what patches to show seems to be sprinkled it
multiple places - basically its in each frontend individually afaict
(ncurses, zypper, qt, gtk) and the gtk was not synced with the others.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=336124

Test packages with just this fix are at:
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/jproseve/

We'll roll this up with a larger yast-gtk update thats in the pipe

-JP
-- 
JP Rosevear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Novell, Inc.

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