** Reply to message from Felix Miata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Mon, 29 Oct 2007
20:34:19 -0400


> On 2007/10/30 00:50 (GMT+0200) Stan Goodman apparently typed:
> 
> > When the first reboot happened, I left the DVD in the drive, which I am 
> > sure is
> > correct. After the reboot, what came up was the installers main screen,
> > offering the choice of booting from the Hard Disk, Installation, etc. 
> > Choosing
> > "Installation" brings me back to the beginning of the upgrade process
> > (language, accept the conditions, etc.), which I do not think is where I 
> > want
> > to be. In other words, I appear to have lost the thread of the upgrade 
> > process.
> > I hope someone will explain to me why this has happened, and what I can do
> > about it.
> 
> > Removing the DVD and rebooting causes a black screen to come up, with a 
> > prompt
> > like "grub >". In other words, the upgrade process has decided on its own
> > initiative to install GRUB in the Master Boot Sector. This is dirty pool: 
> > When
> > I first installed v10..2, I put GRUB into a very small partition all by 
> > itself;
> > I did this for a very good reason, and I was allowed to do it, and there is 
> > something very wrong with the upgrader/installer moving it about in this way
> > without asking me. I'll fix this, but it should not have happened.


Hi, Felix!!

> It appears the correct choice in your case must be to leave the DVD in the
> drive, but to either do nothing, in which case it will attempt to boot the
> HD, or to select to boot the HD, and then to nothing more than answer
> questions until after it finishes booting from the HD and finalizing
> installation.

The DVD is not in the drive now. I removed it because 

At boot, the installers screen appeared as expected;
I selected "Boot from hard disk";
Black screen with GRUB prompt appeared, because the installer had made its own
GRUB in the MBR. I am certain that it did not consult me about doing this.
Since it had been behaving as an upgrade, I do not think the question of where
to put GRUB would haqve had any meaning.

> 10.3 is more like a .0 release than any I can remember, mostly because of
> massive changes to Xorg and video drivers that makes it a poor decision on
> the part of several distros to have released new versions in the
> September/October 2007 period, include Mandriva and Ubuntu in addition to
> OpenSUSE.
> 
> You'll probably have to specify your hardware, particularly video, before
> much in the way of meaningful help can be offered.

Specifying the hardware is very easy: This is an Intel board, 915GAV, with
everything on board, specifically the video. There are no cards in the slots.

I think I need to bite the bullet, and just make an initial installation. Do
you agree?

-- 
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel


Idiotic commercials heard on CNN, #4: "On January 20, the balance of power will 
change hands." -- for CNN Current Events
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