On 26/11/2007, Stefan Hundhammer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So in the ideal case we would like to have a completely new approach.
> This is what that "radical change" was all about.
>
> Maybe there is a different way than just placing a lot of icons in a window
> (with or without groups) and let the user figure out how to deal with it.
> Carefully taking care, of course, of all kinds of users, newbies as well as
> experts.
>
> Failing that, maybe somebody has a good idea how to present the modules
> traditionally in an icon view, but in a way that does not overwhelm everybody
> when the window opens (the "show all at once" approach) or that leaves the
> user searching for the right module at most times (the icon groups or even
> icon tree approach).
>
> This is what that was all about. This is what we ask your opinions for.

My thoughts on the matter are that I think one needs to take a step
back from: "how easily can the user find what he/she wants within
yast2-control-centre?" and have as the starting point  "how easily can
the user find what he/she wants within the Desktop?"

Both KDE and GNOME have easier to use application launchers and
configuration organisers now. I think some of the yast modules might
belong in one of these. This means thinking for each icon in YaST
where a user might look for it from a blank desktop.

Some examples:

Network Card,Sound... - Fall into some nice categories like
configuration, hardware - where would a user look for hardware
configuration in the desktop, where do other operating systems keep
such configuration options?

Kiwi image creation,Log viewer - More applications than configuration
in my opinion.

All the AppArmor[sic] modules - A logical group of modules that maybe
doesn't fit anywhere nicely.

Software Management - Where do other operating systems keep add/remove
software etc?

So what is the point of the yast2-control-centre as it exists today?
It is saying "This application, or configuration is arbitrarily
different to all the others on your system, so it's in a different
place". I don't believe that just because something is implemented
with the YaST platform it should therefore automatically be in a
special YaST2 control centre, this becomes increasingly clear as the
number of YaST modules increases.

Whether this means putting some of the yast modules in
system-settings/gnome equivalent & some in kickoff/main-menu, or
whether it means having a "hardware control centre", a "server control
centre" etc, or something else entirely I don't have an answer for,
having not researched it. I'd just like to see the appropriate place
for exposing a YaST module to a user considered from the desktop
level, than "where does it go in yast2-control-centre".

Of course if modules are exposed in various logical places in each
desktop, this does not preclude still having a yast2-control-centre
for existing users who are used to it, and so existing documentation
is still accurate, and so there is still a way to discover the modules
in ncurses.

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Benjamin Weber
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