On Mon, 30 Dec 2002, [UTF-8] Rickard Ă–berg wrote:

> Joseph Ottinger wrote:
> > Well, note the quotes I used. "Correctness" can be taken a lot of ways.
> > What I was referring to was buzzword-compatible correctness, where the
> > comp sci grads are happy applying all of their new-found knowledge in ways
> > that end up making the product less usable. Between usability and
> > "correctness," I'll take usability.
>
> I see. My interpretation of "correctness" contains a high degree of
> "usability" :-)

Think "property editors." Correct. Very "correct." Usable, but unused.

> > This is sort of why I dislike the current xwork.xml structure - it's
> > "correct" but unusable. (Well, it's usable, but *I* wouldn't want to use
> > it.)
> Agree completely.

Whoever came up with that should be run out on a rail! :) :) :)

> > As far as the validation... as long as the definition is clear, I'm happy.
> Ok, good.

I'd also like to add a request for formal scope for XWork (and webwork,
too, for that matter, although it's too late.) A scope document would
correct a lot of the issues people have, and reduce the learning curve,
as well. It would also help you determine what was and was not within the
domain of XWork - for example, a scope document woudl specify that the
model was out of scope whereas a bridge to the data model was not (i.e.,
"Xwork will not provide connection pooling for you, nor a persistence
layer at all, although your specific dispatcher may provide mechanisms in
which you can persist changes made programmatically.")

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Joseph B. Ottinger                 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://enigmastation.com                    IT Consultant



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