Given that for some of us the dev meeting is at an unearthly hour of the
morning :) (I am at GMT + 9.5) I'll comment here.

Please can we have this in WW 1.3 ? What will it mean in terms of jars
needed in our web application ?


On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 17:17, Patrick Lightbody wrote:
> I just ran some tests, inspired by Scotts work on getting Velocity in place
> for the UI tags. I took it one step further and got rid rd.include()
> entirely (Like Scott had mentioned) and the performance boost was icredible.
> 
> Basically, if we lock down to using velocity for the -UI tags- (note, this
> means that JSP views would still work), we get like a 10X performance
> increase as well as a huge scaling increase. I mean, it's so huge that it
> would be dumb for us not to take it. And mind you, I ran these tests on
> Orion and Resin, two of the fastest JSP implementations.
> 
> So I'm going to un-propose my suggestion about using SiteMesh for the UI
> tags and instead propose that we stick 100% to only supporting
> velocity-based taglibs. Your JSP views will still look and act exactly the
> same:
> 
> ....
> <ww:textfield ... />
> ...
> 
> The only difference is that instead of the TextFieldTag issueing an
> rd.include() request to some unknown URL (JSP or velocity), it uses Velocity
> to write -directly- to the JspWriter:
> 
> template.merge(context, pageContext.getOut());
> 
> All the same support would exist (themes, tweaking, etc), but it would just
> be much faster. The downside is that if you have custom UI widgets, you'll
> have to convert them to velocity.
> 
> Thoughts? Actually, don't write back to this. Instead, just show up to the
> dev meeting tomorrow.
> 
> -Pat
> 
> 
> 
> 
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