> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rickard Öberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> 
> Yeah, I think the only way is to do it at around 8-9 AM EST, 
> which means 
> afternoon here, which means late at night "down under". Any 
> other time 
> will mean that someone is asleep :-)

Well, 9 AM here means 6 AM in California, where Patrick is. I don't know if there is a 
good solution....


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