I use both. This is a total guess, but I'd say maybe 25% use velocity.

-pat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelvin Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity Views


> Thanks. Thought as much...
>
> I'm guessing most WW users don't use Velocity?
>
> KT
>
> On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:47:30 -0800, Patrick Lightbody said:
> >Yup, makes sense. Sounds like you need action chaining possibly.
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Kelvin Tan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <opensymphony-
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003
> >5:46 PM Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Velocity Views
> >
> >
> >>Not really. Velocity templates are dumb. They don't retrieve data
> >>to
> >display
> >>(not in the original push model at least. Turbine and Scarab came
> >>up with
> >a
> >>Pull model), they display data given to them in the context.
> >>
> >>I see Velocity templates as containing presentation logic, not view
> >>logic.
> >>Maybe I'm being pedantic, but I define presentation logic as
> >>containing
> >the
> >>formatting, positional and aesthetic elements, and view logic as
> >retrieving the
> >>data for the presentation logic to render.
> >>
> >>Let me give you an example. Say we have a simple "view logic" class
> >>which
> >given
> >>a UUID, retrieves and materializes a User object from the database.
> >>Now,
> >this
> >>view can be reused by any template which requires the retrieval of
> >>a
> >single
> >>User, like a template for display a user's profile (read-only), a
> >>template
> >for
> >>display of user profile (as a form), perhaps a template which
> >>requires
> >renders
> >>various stuff on the same page, one of which is the display of user
> >profile...
> >>
> >>Do you see where I'm driving at?
> >>
> >>Regards, Kelvin
> >>
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> >>
> >>On Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:33:00 -0800, Patrick Lightbody said:
> >>>
> >>>Maybe I'm missing the question. The Action "does something", the
> >>>velocity template "retrieves data to display".
> >>>
> >>>-Pat
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