RE: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2

[Jason Carreira]

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How would you suggest it's found? How does it default? How are views defined? How does it know what class you're talking about? What about extending a package with another package? -----Original Message----- From: John Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 12:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 My issue was not with fully qualified names in the xwork.xml file.  I agree that this would not be worth the extra complexity.  I would like to avoid creating *any* entry in the config for simple actions.  Only create an entry in the config when the default behaviour is not sufficient.   Performance would not be an issue as once the default action configuration has been found once, it could be cached and reused (just as with explicity defined actions).   -----Original Message----- From: Cameron Braid [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 8:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 I would think that using the fully qualified classname isn't any harder since most of the time you are copy pasting it anyway.   Also, when using refactoring tools to rename classes, or move them, the tools can often update xml or text files.  This wouldn't work with short names. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Carreira Sent: Friday, 15 August 2003 2:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 Create a jira for <default-action-package> for XWork 1.0 and we'll take a look at what it will take to make it happen. -----Original Message----- From: John Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 That is a great improvement!  Still one extra step per action though.  It would not be very often that one would want to change the default action-view search behaviour.  Just setting a java package property would be enough (<defaultActionPackage>com.myorg.myapp.actions</...).   I just thought that if I saw such an ease of use feature when looking for a framework that would have impressed me.  I hate having to configure things with xml that should be default.  One more step that can go wrong.  Smart defaults are a developers friend. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Carreira To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:51 PM Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 I'm not sure about this... this sounds more complicated to me than explicitly telling it what to look for... you have to read a lot more docs for what the defaults are, etc. With the stuff I did to make the default stuff pulled out into a separate file, here's what the xwork.xml for the Config Browser app looks like:   <!DOCTYPE xwork PUBLIC "-//OpenSymphony Group//XWork 1.0//EN" "http://www.opensymphony.com/xwork/xwork-1.0.dtd">   <xwork>     <include file="webwork-default.xml"/>       <package name="default" extends="webwork-default" namespace="/">         <interceptors>             <interceptor-stack name="config-browser-default">                 <interceptor-ref name="component"/>                 <interceptor-ref name="validationWorkflowStack"/>             </interceptor-stack>         </interceptors>         <default-interceptor-ref name="config-browser-default"/>         <global-results>             <result name="error" type="velocity">error.vm</result>         </global-results>         <action name="namespace" class="com.opensymphony.webwork.config_browser.NamespaceAction">             <result type="velocity" name="success">namespaces.vm</result>             <result type="velocity" name="input">namespaces.vm</result>         </action>         <action name="actionNames" class="com.opensymphony.webwork.config_browser.ActionNamesAction">             <result type="velocity" name="success">actionNames.vm</result>             <result type="velocity" name="input">actionNames.vm</result>         </action>         <action name="showConfig" class="com.opensymphony.webwork.config_browser.ShowConfigAction">             <result type="velocity" name="success">showConfig.vm</result>             <result type="velocity" name="input">showConfig.vm</result>         </action>     </package> </xwork>   That's the whole thing. It's pretty simple, I think.   Jason -----Original Message----- From: John Patterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:40 AM To: Webwork Subject: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 When searching for a good web framework I looked for simplicity first and power second.  The thing which stood out about WW1 was that it seemed easier to get new actions up and running quickly.  Being able to define a default package made the config very simple.  I think that some of this has been lost in WW2.   I would like to suggest the ability to have "default" mappings between action aliases, action classes and views so that if I enter the URL "/action/search" or "search.action" the framework will look for a class named SearchAction and a view of "/search.jsp" (success result).   This must be able to be configured so that instead of jsp some other view technology could be used as the default.  The directory in which the default jsp view should be searched for should also be able to be specified ("/" as default)   The action search path should be able to be specified.  If an action with a namespace is used ("/products/search") then the action class should be searched for in the sub package "products" of every package in the search path.   Of course this would only work for actions that only need one specific result (may use global results)   To my mind, this kind of shortcut makes a framework appear easy to use.  In reality it is easy to configure every action in your xml file but it is an obvious way to show "look how easy it is to use Webwork".  The fine grained control would remain for more complicated actions.   John.