Ohdear, poor Hibernate. Foolish Gavin. He seemed like such a nice guy when
I met him too.

Matthew E. Porter said:
> While we are on the topic of Hibernate......
>
>
> Cheers,
>    matthew
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> From: Bill Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: Wed Sep 17, 2003  12:08:45 PM US/Central
>> To: Gavin King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: hibernate list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: [Hibernate] JBoss welcomes Gavin and Hibernate
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I would sincerely like to welcome Gavin and Hibernate to the JBoss
>> Group and JBoss.org umbrella.  I can't tell you how incredibly psyched
>>  and excited we at JBoss are about this.  Over the past year, I can't
>> tell you how many times we've encountered customers that are using
>> Hibernate or are looking to use Hibernate to replace the clunky design
>>  that EJB CMP is.
>>
>> Technically this is a perfect marriage for both projects.  We at JBoss
>>  have been looking at replacing our aging CMP persistence for over a
>> year now in JBoss 4.0.  We are excited that we will be able to
>> leverage Hibernate as the backbone of our persistence solutions rather
>>  than having to patch our existing, aging solution or rewriting it
>> from  scratch.  Hibernate will also become part of our POJO/AOP based
>> solution and a key component of our aspect-oriented middleware
>> offering.  These two things alone will expand the userbase and
>> developer base of Hibernate.  This means more people finding bugs and
>> more people fixing bugs.
>>
>> JBoss developers have also done a lot of distributed caching work that
>>  will be applicable to Hibernate.  We will also help Gavin create
>> tighter integration of Hibernate with JBoss for those of you who are
>> interested in that.  Things like packaged Hibernate components that
>> can be hot-deployed.  JMX management of Hibernate components.  Those
>> are just a few of the things that we can introduce.
>>
>> JBoss Group is proud to pionner a model we call "Professional Open
>> Source" whereby JBoss.org grows and JBoss Group recruits the top
>> talent from succesful open source efforts.  It enables developers to
>> work fulltime, become pro, on their own projects.  Recently JBoss
>> Group recruited Remy Maucherat, the lead developer of Tomcat 5, Julien
>> Viet the developer of Nukes, Bela Ban, creator of JavaGroups, more are
>>  coming.  JBG offers the rare opportunity to turn from hobbyist open
>> source to professional open source.  All core JBoss developers are pro
>>  themselves(myself included). JBoss Group professional open source
>> sponsors the top developers to work full time on their projects and
>> thus provides a boost to the projects involved by sponsoring their
>> leaders. Finally the availability of professional services is a boost
>> to corporate adoption of succesful open source projects such as
>> Hibernate.  We strongly believe this is the way of the future at >
>> JBoss.
>>
>> Finally, I'd also like to reiterate Gavin's assertion that not much
>> will change for Hibernate users other than that you might see some
>> references /advertisements for JBossGroup services for Hibernate on
>> the Hibernate.org website.  Gavin will still retain full control of
>> the Hibernate trademark, website, and project.  He will work mostly on
>>  Hibernate and will only give occasional support to our CMP team lead
>> by Alex Loubyansky.
>>
>> All and all, I hope you all look favorably on this new relationship.
>> I know I do.
>>
>> Thanks all!
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
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