2008/3/26, Michel Arboi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [sorry for the late answer] > > On Sun, Oct 21, 2007 at 1:53 AM, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > As you see in the email below, the openvas-client package was rejected > from > > Debian based on the contents of doc/WARNING.En, this document describes > the > > risks of running Nessus and starts saying: > > [snip] > Basically, I said the same things as CC "Attribution-No Derivative > Works" licence. > See http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/us/
This license is non-free for Debian, please see http://people.debian.org/~evan/ccsummary.html (which speaks about the 2.5 version, but not much has changed for 3.0 IIRC) > > Non-modification of documents is not acceptable. > > > That seems really brain damaged to me. > FYI, French law splits intellectual property into commercial rights > and moral rights. Not only French law, it's actually in most EU countries and in the treaties related to IP. Moral rights have nothing to do, however, with the "I allow this document to be modified" (maybe under certain conditions), that is, allowing "derivative works" which is a commercial (not moral) right. > The latter are valid forever, and cannot be sold, given, relinquished, etc. > They include the right to the respect of the "work of art" (the author > may oppose any modification he does not juge suitable) and a > withdrawal right (the author may decide to stop all publication of his > creation). There are free documentation licenses which do not relinquish those moral rights but do so for commercial rights. Non-modification is not a moral right: it is not the same to say "you cannot modify this" than to say "you can modify this, but if you do then set yourself as author and add me to the credits" (i.e. "I allow you to create derivative works, but don't say I'm the author of that work, because I'm not"). The "modification right" is not a moral right, it is a what you call a "commercial" right since actually boils down to letting others do "derivative works". So you can provide a document using a free (as in speech) document license while still retaining your moral rights. > So if it makes you happy, I can change the licence, allow you to > modify and distort it, write that I do not care and sign with my > blood, this is just *void*. It actuallly is not void, your are not giving away any of the moral rights if you use any of the free documentation licenses available. Actually moral rights apply to *any* intellectual property, not just texts (or documents), there are free licenses which allow for modification of documents and do not contradict IP law in France. Some of these are acceptable by Debian (see below) > I was French when I wrote it, I was living > in France, I am still French and still living in France, so > definitely, French law is applicable: I *cannot* relinquish this > right. Dura sex sed lex. I''m not going to extend too much in this list related to free documentation licenses, you can find Debian's stance on valid licenses (which are not contrary to the moral rights you talk about) at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/ddp-policy/ch-common.en.html#s2.2 All the licenses described there as acceptable by Debian are used in countries which, like France or the US, have signed the Berne Convention (see http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/). I don't claim to be an expert in French's (or actually, any country's) IP law, but I would be surprised if French's IP law contradicted the Berne convention or the EU directives related to IP. The licenses I'm pointing at are compatible with both. Based on what your concerns, and if you want your documents to be included in OpenVAS, I suggest you use the Linux Documentation License but do not prevent modification (for more information see http://www.tldp.org/COPYRIGHT.html) as it describes what is an acceptable modification of the document. Best regards Javier _______________________________________________ Openvas-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.wald.intevation.org/mailman/listinfo/openvas-devel
