2018-02-08 20:40 GMT+05:00 Selva Nair <selva.n...@gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Feb 8, 2018 at 3:15 AM, Samuli Seppänen <sam...@openvpn.net>
> wrote:
> > Il 07/02/2018 21:58, David Sommerseth ha scritto:
> >> On 07/02/18 20:32, Илья Шипицин wrote:
> >>> After auth-token were introduced, when user press "Reconnect", it
> leads to
> >>> auth fail (saved password is forgotten), we run about 1000 users,
> nobody
> >>> complains.
> >>
> >> This is actually expected, I'd say - but smells like a bug on the
> server side
> >> authentication.
> >>
> >> Selva may correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of it when
> clicking
> >> "Reconnect", the local OpenVPN process which caches the auth-token is
> stopped
> >> and a new OpenVPN process is started. The client should in this case
> ask for
> >> username/password again. So in this case, the server side should treat
> this
> >> connection as a fresh connection with no initial state.
> >>
> >> The step of stopping the local client and starting a new and fresh one
> is
> >> definitely not a bad feature to have on clients.
> >>
> >>> It looks like nobody uses that button.
> >>>
> >>> So, I asked several users, they confirmed they do not use Reconnect.
> >>
> >> This is no good argument for me. This is one specific setup with 1000
> users.
> >> It would be more valuable with 50 different setups having 20 users
> each. Your
> >> conclusion is based on a very homogeneous environment.
> >
> > I agree. I also agree that the underlying problem should be fixed.
> >
> > That said, Ilya's message was sent to both openvpn-users and
> > openvpn-devel and nobody has screamed "do not remove the Reconnect
> > button" :). The only additional thing we can do is post a message to the
> > forums. As usual, the only sure way to get feedback (read: complaints)
> > is to release the changes in an official build/installer.
>
> Only recently we added a reconnect item to the menu (earlier it was
> only available as a button in the status window) for ease of doing
> reconnects and based on user requests -- though I can't now find who
> asked for it.
>
it is interesting.
>
> I wouldn't take lack of response on the user's list as an indication
> that no one uses it. In fact its very handy -- how else will you
> restart a connection after editing the config file? Disconnect and
> connect again? That would close the status window and lose all
>
yes. disconnect and connect again.
> messages in it and also takes a number of mouse clicks because of the
> way tray popup menu behaves.
>
> Anyway the purported reason to remove it is totally bogus. Its like
> auth-token cant cope with SIGHUP, so let's remove that signal.
>
no, that is wrong interpretaion.
I actually meant
"it is broken" --> "users do not complain" --> "users do not care" -->
"other buttons will keep their places" --> "let us remove unused button"
>
> Finally, I'm an user too and I use that button all the time, though
> mostly for testing. If that counts as a dissenting voice.
>
yes, I also meant that. it is "designed by developers for themselves" :)
same as "edit config" menu item.
developers need edit config all the time and reconnect. but do users do
same things as well ?
as for "edit config", I'd like to keep it. it's removal will change menu
order, people will click at wrong items.
>
> Selva
>
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