Hi, On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 5:22 AM David Sommerseth <open...@sf.lists.topphemmelig.net> wrote: > > On 24/10/18 13:47, Samuli Seppänen wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The OpenVPN Inc. webmaster would like to add Google Analytics to > > community.openvpn.net, i.e. our Trac wiki/bug tracker. I said we need to > > consult the community first because GA can be seen as a form of spying. > > Here's our webmaster's view on this subject: > > > > --- > > > > "The goal of this would be to understand what information first-time > > users are finding the most valuable on community.openvpn.net." > > > > "As this is a publicly accessible community without the requirement to > > join to read the articles, it would be advantageous for all to > > understand which pieces of content the public are finding the most > > useful, what encourages them to become a part of the community, and what > > potentially persuaded them to use start using a commercial product." > > > > "As openvpn.net links to community.openvpn.net and vice versa this will > > also help us to understand the complete journey of a user and help to > > improve the website experience, which can only be seen as a positive." > > > > --- > > > > In today's community meeting there was some concern about the spying > > aspect of Google Analytics, but nobody was strongly opposed. This was I > > believe, in part, because it is fairly easy to block Google Analytics if > > one so wishes. > > > > So, what do _you_ think? > > I personally am against any external third party blockers, and in particular > in the correlation with sites and projects trying to protect users data, such > as VPNs. This is an information leak to a third-party, and when that > third-party is Google who earns money on harvesting data and user pattern I do > get concerns. > > Trackers are on all my systems blocked by default in addition to using EFF's > Privacy Badger, the DuckDuckGo add-on and ad-blockers subscribed to additional > lists blocking trackers. I do not think I'm unique in any way, and would > expect other visitors to openvpn.net to do the same - as many users want to > use OpenVPN to protect their data. > > I fully understand and value the webmaster provides and the value of such > tracking. But I would rather have us look at some tracking which does not > expose this information to an external third-party. There are solutions like > Matomo (former PIWIK) [1] which gives a similar utility but does not leak any > information to third-parties. There might be others too, but this is one I've > been playing with some other places earlier.
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