Dear all
First tx for ruote development and maintenance over the years.
I won't debate on is ruby bad or good, bad developers and more importantly 
bad designers will succeed in project failures even with perfect tools.
I have been using ruote together with rails and rails was the pain, neither 
ruote nor the integration of the two worlds.
A few comments then (and may be a stream for "flon" could be created):
- ruote concepts are far beyond any average designer/developer 
understanding because at start they do not exactly get what is a business 
process. look how many questions you had about participants and what is 
it...
- ruote is may be too low level: i m pretty sure that if you wrap up your 
tool in a sexy GUI more people will like it. A GUI with predefined actions 
would probably restrict the use of ruote but it could gain in accessibility
- ruote admin is probably again too low level although there were very good 
things available with ruotekit. but i experienced a hand over case and 
people were scared by it.
Anyway, many thanks again and let us know about your new flon
Christophe


On Sunday, November 17, 2013 5:37:20 PM UTC+1, Doug Bryant wrote:
>
> John,
>
> Tough decision but I agree it's probably the right one to make.  As a 
> standalone service, it should reduce the the number of issues due to 
> reduced number of config options (adapters to storage engines, etc).  I 
> would imagine a fair number of users are standing up a service around Ruote 
> anyway and for those who aren't, having Ruote or Flon as a service would 
> lead to better integration practices. 
>
> I don't think Ruote being written in Ruby was as much of the problem as 
> Ruote being a library for workflows.  Being a library/gem allowed the most 
> flexibility integrating Ruote but probably caused most of the confusion 
> about how to use properly. Were Ruote a stand-alone service, it really 
> wouldn't matter which language it was written in.  
>
> I would be very interested in watching and participating in the evolution 
> of ruote 3 or flon also.  Let us know how we can help.
>
> Doug
>
>

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