As one of the "how do I integrate this with Rails" folks, I really
appreciate all of your efforts John. If there is a way that I can help with
taking "examples" off of your plate as per Danny's suggestion, I'd like to
help. I really like the idea of treating Ruote as a service rather than
"integrating" it directly in the app.

Damon Torgerson
425.442.3925


On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Danny Fullerton <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 13-11-16 06:28 AM, Mario Camou wrote:
> > On 16 Nov 2013, at 09:26, John Mettraux <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 07:16:06AM +0100, Mario Camou wrote:
> >>>> On Nov 15, 2013 11:27 PM, "John Mettraux" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >>>>> Ruote 3.0, if I manage to find the time to build it, will probably
> not be a
> >>>>> Ruby project, but it should be easily accessible, as a service, from
> a Ruby application.
> >>> That's interesting. Care to share your thoughts on why not Ruby, what
> >>> language or sort of language you're thinking about and why?
> >> Hello Mario,
> >>
> >> I went too wide with ruote 2.x, one "adapter" for any sort of storage
> out
> >> there. Ruote 3.0 will [perhaps] focus on FS storage. There'll be a set
> of
> >> "conventional datastructures" manipulated by the tools that'd make up
> ruote
> >> 3.0, whatever the language they're written in.
> >>
> >> I would stay away from Ruby to avoid any "hey I want to integrate that
> into
> >> my Rails project, where is the sample I can copy/paste?" hassle.
> >>
> >> I also thought that going for Ruby would allow people helping build the
> >> system, but no, it didn't, so I'm free to build it in any language I
> like.
> >> What's important (you Madrid guys know it very well), is that other
> systems
> >> can talk to it.
> > I completely agree with you. Elixir perhaps? Or Scala or Go :)
> >
> > I hope you get the time to do this!
> Hello,
>
> I can't help but wonder how this would change anything. Ruote's users
> gravitates around Ruby so I don't see how changing the language of
> version 3 would fix this. Better to simply start a whole new project.
>
> Sure scaling down some features, reducing the codebase, etc can help but
> I'm really not quite sure about the language thing...
>
> It's true we see a lot of inquiries about "how to integrate with Rails"
> but that's probably because there's a need. What if `we` (Ruote's users
> - not John) try to fix this: develop a project which helps integrating
> Ruote with Rails (not Ruote in Rails) while keeping a clean demarcation
> between both of them? It's precisely what I'm working on. Could that be
> helpful?
>
> Too little to late?
>
> regards,
>
> --
> Danny Fullerton
> Founder
> Mantor Organization
>
>
>

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