On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Imre Kaloz wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Mar 2008 14:27:19 +0100, Robert P. J. Day
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Jan Willies wrote:
> >
> >> Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> >> > just to complete the earlier list of openwrt packages that don't
> >> > build on my fedora 8 system -- no details for now, just package names:
> >> >
> >> > * p54-related stuff
> >>
> >> I posted a patch to solve that one last month. You can find it in
> >> the ML-archive.
> >
> > so why hasn't that fix been added to the git repo?
> >
>
> First, the git-repo isn't the official source (just to make sure we
> don't confuse people here).
(just to be clear, when i refer to the "git repo," i'm assuming i
could just as easily be talking about the "svn repo" since i imagine
they're kept in sync, yes?)
i understand that the version control repos aren't the "official"
source for openwrt. but, from a quality assurance and stress testing
point of view, if you make them open to the public, you should *hope*
that there are people (like me) who are willing to work with them, and
hammer on them, and point out where they fail, and even submit patches
that fix some of those failures.
to be honest, i'm baffled that the developers *don't* seem all that
enthusiastic about responding to bug reports and patches all that
much, and that there are bug reports that are now months old in the
trac database. to be blunt, that's just plain weird.
> Second, probably none of the developers use these packages, and
> noone had free time to tst and merge the patches yet.
no one is *asking* the developers to use those packages. that's what
the *users* are for -- to forge ahead, and live dangerously, and
boldly compile packages that haven't been compiled before, and point
out when things explode. but if the users take the time to do that,
and their reports and/or patches aren't even acted on, they're going
to really start losing interest in helping out.
> OpenWrt is still a non-commercial project, not a company, so don't
> expect that kind of support.. Real work and life gets priority.
if that's the attitude of the majority of the developers of openwrt,
then i suggest you folks find a different hobby. because that shows
an astonishing contempt for the users who are willing to invest the
time in using and testing openwrt and trying to make it a better
product.
if the developers can't even be bothered to look at and apply patches
that are handed to them, they shouldn't be doing this.
rday
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