Il 20/11/2011 10:50, Ben Zimmer ha scritto:
Hi,I'l try to sum up the status as of now: I built an little application, that should make it a lot easier to process new list-applications in the future, as it automates some of the steps necessary to verify a new server. At the moment it has the following features: * form for server-admins to register their servers * automatic sending of verification-email with verification-link to proove email-address is real * basic check if server is reachable * check for SRV-records * check for StartTLS/SSL (this is a bit unreliable at the moment and would have to be improved) * export of list ready to import into the current wordpress-table-format on xmpp.org I asked if this application could be deployed to the server that hosts xmpp.org so that it could be integrated in to the page (http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001219.html). No answer on that so far. Regarding the list itself and new applications to it: We processed all new applications (until today) into this application and also marked old, non-responding server as not-verified there. I exported the updated list and imported it to the xmpp-wordpress. After this I asked if somebody could approve this and make it public, but as of now, nobody did (see http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001220.html). No reaction to this so far. The update doesn't include new applications, because email and xmpp-address verification is still to be done here. For this purpose there was a blogpost planned to inform people about a (mass) email to be sent out and from which email this would come to prevent misunderstandings (we cannot use a xmpp.org email-address). I prepared this blogpost and sent out a request for it to be proof-read (http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2011-September/001218.html), again without any reaction. That's about it. Ben On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 22:15, Marco Cirillo<[email protected]> wrote:I think I last mailed asking about it, about 1 month ago... But time is still ticking and there's no visible progress. And at the cost of wearing a "Troll Mask". I'd like to know exactly what's the real _showstopper_ here. I think I discussed the same argument with Ludovic one month ago, he hoped as I did that within October this would get sorted. But I reluctantly observe that it's always just a few responses then back to the initial Void. I'd firmly appreciate that the answer isn't:<< time>>; because, aside unacceptable, it would be astonishing. If there's really an objective issue in achieving this *task*, I guess it's really time to _discuss_ about it. Regards, Marco.
Hi Ben,I'm sorry if it looked in any way the *blame* remark was directed at you it wasn't my intention.
But I'm concerned that the people who should be _actually monitoring_ this mailing list isn't really caring at all. And it also disturbs me that an official tool (also given the time people like you invested in trying to get it restarted properly), which is now out of question "officially" discontinued or somewhere along those lines keeps giving a privileged and undeserved (forgive me the license there..) visibility to services, which often aren't even active anymore, _just_ because they registered in earlier and more favourable times.
'Cause yes in the end we know it's both http://xmpp.org/services/services.xml and http://xmpp.org/services/services-full.xml which the "mainstream" clients still use to populate the "default" public services users get to pick up from.
So dear XSF don't want to mantain the Public Services list anymore? Fine, remove it.
But keeping this joke going doesn't do good, image wise, that's for sure. Regards.
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