On 10/29/2013 1:25 PM, Dave Cridland wrote:
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Jonas Wielicki
    In fact, most of my s2s is already TLS (although I don't require it).
    The only exceptions are google+talk and (weirdly) ddg.im
    <http://ddg.im> (duckduckgo).
    I've already raised that issue to their attention[1], no fix yet, as far
    as I know.


By TLS, is that including proper authentication?

Is dialback "proper authentication"?

I doubt that POSH or DNSSEC/DANE are very widely available, and relying on PKI is plagued with name mismatches for hosting providers as well as lack of CA root certs in trust chains.

Jesse

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