Dear Alec et al,

We did not mean to make a connection to VPP and VSPERF. Rather, we run TRex 
adhoc to benchmark simple use cases. And, would like to know more about VSPERF 
e.g. compared to CSIT. CSIT on Arm is in progress.

More details could be found here.

https://wiki.fd.io/view/VPP/AArch64

https://wiki.fd.io/view/CSIT/AArch64


Thank you,
Tina Tsou
Enterprise Architect
Arm
tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>
+1 (408)931-3833

From: Alec Hothan (ahothan) [mailto:ahot...@cisco.com]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 1:02 PM
To: Georg Kunz <georg.k...@ericsson.com>; Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com>; 
MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmor...@att.com>; Rao, Sridhar <sridhar....@spirent.com>
Cc: Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com>; Honnappa Nagarahalli 
<honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>; Sirshak Das <sirshak....@arm.com>; 
pierre.ly...@keysight.com; richardx.el...@intel.com; trevor.coo...@intel.com; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA


I have added a break out session in the wiki 
(https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/OPNFV+Unconference+topics+at+LFN+Developer+Forum).
 The list of topics is tentative and not final, please add/suggest more topics.

I am also interested to discuss about DP and OVP, thanks for bringing this up 
Georg.
Tina: I think DP benchmarking and ARM is one good topic (there were few emails 
a few months ago regarding ARM support for DP benchmarking), I don’t quite get 
the connection you make between VPP (what’s inside) and VSPERF on ARM.
FD.io/CSIT has been doing quite a bit of work with VPP benchmarking and they 
have their own scripts – independent of VSPERF. Maybe you can elaborate?

From what I can see it is not that easy to try to merge testing tools and 
scripts from the various projects (FD.io CSIT, VSPERF, NFVbench, Yardstick) 
because they use different frameworks and may target different use cases. The 
TGAAS initiative only covers the TG part and already shows that it is a very 
slow process. I myself sometimes wonder if it is really worth the effort to 
merge software components given that it is disruptive and resources are very 
scarce. I think it might be more realistic to first try to unify all DP tools 
by using a common spec such as TST009 and at least have every project “speak 
the same language” (wrt terms being used, definitions, packet flows,  flow 
definitions, standard benchmark results reporting …), if we can achieve that, 
it will be a big improvement.


Thanks

  Alec


From: Georg Kunz <georg.k...@ericsson.com<mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>>
Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 12:15 PM
To: Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>, "Alec Hothan 
(ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>, "MORTON, ALFRED C 
(AL)" <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>>
Cc: Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>>, Honnappa 
Nagarahalli 
<honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>, Sirshak 
Das <sirshak....@arm.com<mailto:sirshak....@arm.com>>, 
"pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>" 
<pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>>, 
"richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>" 
<richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>, 
"trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>" 
<trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>>, 
"opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>" 
<opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>
Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA

Hi,

I am not working on DP benchmarking directly, but I’d like to follow the 
session from an OVP perspective.

Cheers
Georg

From: 
opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org>
 [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Tina Tsou
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:51 PM
To: Alec Hothan (ahothan) <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>; 
MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>>
Cc: Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>>; Honnappa 
Nagarahalli 
<honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>; Sirshak 
Das <sirshak....@arm.com<mailto:sirshak....@arm.com>>; 
pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>; 
richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>; 
trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA

Dear Alec et al,

Thank you for asking.

We can probably talk about “Basic L2 and L3 benchmarking for VPP”, more like 
discussion what’s inside of VPP, e.g. should we run VS perf on Arm?


Thank you,
Tina Tsou
Enterprise Architect
Arm
tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>
+1 (408)931-3833

From: Alec Hothan (ahothan) [mailto:ahot...@cisco.com]
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 10:16 AM
To: Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>; MORTON, ALFRED C 
(AL) <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>>
Cc: Bob Monkman <bob.monk...@arm.com<mailto:bob.monk...@arm.com>>; 
pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>; 
rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>; Rao, Sridhar 
<sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>; 
eddie.arr...@huawei.com<mailto:eddie.arr...@huawei.com>; 
richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>; 
trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>; Honnappa Nagarahalli 
<honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>; Brian 
Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>>; Sirshak Das 
<sirshak....@arm.com<mailto:sirshak....@arm.com>>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA

Hi Tina,

Trying to converge on an agenda for the (tentative) break out session for DP 
benchmarking.
Do you want to cover/present any specific topic related to FD.io/VPP/DPDK 
benchmarking?
I’m still trying to get more info on logistics for break out session from Ray 
(from what I understand so far, logistics will be pretty bare bone with 
multiple  break out session sharing a large room)

Thanks

  Alec


From: Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>
Date: Friday, March 9, 2018 at 8:51 AM
To: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>>
Cc: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>, Bob 
Monkman <bob.monk...@arm.com<mailto:bob.monk...@arm.com>>, 
"pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>" 
<pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>>, 
"rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>" 
<rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>>, "Rao, Sridhar" 
<sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>, 
"eddie.arr...@huawei.com<mailto:eddie.arr...@huawei.com>" 
<eddie.arr...@huawei.com<mailto:eddie.arr...@huawei.com>>, 
"richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>" 
<richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>, 
"opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>" 
<opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>,
 "trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>" 
<trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>>, Honnappa Nagarahalli 
<honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>, Brian 
Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>>, Sirshak Das 
<sirshak....@arm.com<mailto:sirshak....@arm.com>>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA

Dear all,

Arm team volunteers to help too, we have some experience on VPP and DPDK 
benchmarking.

Thank you,
Tina

On Mar 9, 2018, at 8:48 AM, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) 
<acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>> wrote:
Hi Alec,
I’ll help with the breakout...
Al

From: Alec Hothan (ahothan) [mailto:ahot...@cisco.com]
Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 11:40 AM
To: Bob Monkman <bob.monk...@arm.com<mailto:bob.monk...@arm.com>>; 
pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>; 
rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>; Rao, Sridhar 
<sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>; MORTON, ALFRED C 
(AL) <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>>; 
eddie.arr...@huawei.com<mailto:eddie.arr...@huawei.com>
Cc: richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>; 
trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>; Tina Tsou 
<tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>; Honnappa Nagarahalli 
<honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>; Brian 
Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA


Bob,

Thanks for your interest, I’d like to have input from Sridhar and Al to see if 
they want to help prepare/moderate a break out session on DP benchmarking.
I see the morning plenary session has a few that have implications on DP:
·       Long Duration Stability Test (Sridhar, Gabriel)
·       ETSI NFV & LFN collaboration – Testing (Pierre)
·       Few container based networking (not sure how much DP benchmarking are 
in those sessions)

I can certainly talk about NFVbench but would prefer to also have VSPERF in the 
discussion. Possible topics of discussion for the breakout:
·       Update on the DP benchmarking state in OPNFV (including how NFVbench 
and VSPERF are complementary, how they compare and which to use in what 
condition)
·       DP benchmarking insertion into OVP
·       Full system and production-level DP benchmarking
·       Latency measurement and how open source libraries can get us “out of 
the hole”
·       TST009 status and what’s next (this is more for Al)

I’m not too clear about the format of these breakout session, if it is multiple 
round tables in a big room it’s not going to be super easy for discussions 
(noise) or even slide-presentation or whiteboarding… So that makes me concerned 
given that every one of the above topics is practically large enough to deserve 
a normal session.
Perhaps Ray can touch a word on the break-out session format.

Thanks

  Alec



From: Bob Monkman <bob.monk...@arm.com<mailto:bob.monk...@arm.com>>
Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 9:49 PM
To: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>, 
"pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>" 
<pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>>, 
"rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>" 
<rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>>, "Rao, Sridhar" 
<sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>
Cc: "richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>" 
<richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>, 
"opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>" 
<opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>,
 "trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>" 
<trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>>, Tina Tsou 
<tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>, Honnappa Nagarahalli 
<honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>, Brian 
Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>>
Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA

Alec,
              Adding Tina, Honnappa, and brian, who will be in attendance and 
one or more of them may be able to attend if you pull something together for 
Data Plane Benchmarking. We are certainly quite interested in that topic.

Regards,
bob

Robert (Bob) Monkman
Director, Networking Software Strategy & Ecosystem Programs
Arm
150 Rose Orchard Way
San Jose, Ca 95134
M: +1.510.676.5490
Skype: robert.monkman

From: 
opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org>
 [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Alec Hothan 
(ahothan)
Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 8:25 AM
To: pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>; 
rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>; Rao, Sridhar 
<sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>
Cc: richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>; 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>; 
trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA

Ok thanks Ray.
Pierre: I have not exactly proposed any topic for discussion (yet) and I was 
just trying to see who would be interested to do some joint discussion around 
DP benchmarking – as I understand these will be several round table sessions in 
a larger room (not ideal for whiteboarding).
Is there any particular topic in DP benchmarking you’d be interested to 
propose/discuss, there are many topics that might be of interest to people but 
I’d like to first see who will be present.
Too bad Trevor will not attend, so looking to see who else from VSPERF team 
will be present…

Thanks

  Alec


From: "pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>" 
<pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>>
Date: Friday, March 2, 2018 at 3:54 PM
To: "rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>" 
<rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>>, "Alec Hothan 
(ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>
Cc: "richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>" 
<richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>, 
"opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>" 
<opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>,
 "trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>" 
<trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA

Hi Alec,

I'll be at ONS, and I'm interested in this discussion



Thanks,

Pierre




-------- Original message --------
From: Raymond Paik <rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>>
Date: 3/3/18 12:14 AM (GMT+01:00)
To: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>
Cc: "Elias, RichardX" 
<richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>, 
opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>, 
Trevor Cooper <trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA

Sorry Alec, here you go 
https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/OPNFV+Unconference+topics+at+LFN+Developer+Forum<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwiki.lfnetworking.org-252Fdisplay-252FLN-252FOPNFV-252BUnconference-252Btopics-252Bat-252BLFN-252BDeveloper-252BForum-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C41cada5023b34afe08f308d5809344b8-257C63545f2732324d74a44dcdd457063402-257C1-257C0-257C636556292583196536-26sdata-3Drq8fqZNn5f-252Bpmt6UBDuXhiCXRHcC6i-252BZBwxJYFgTaRQ-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OfsSu8kTIltVyD1oL72cBw&m=Ci7kKppkvP_GnHUtkml5dqbhNyzptN2EeWnQjYjok7E&s=U91GDuxUTt5_Szy61HafZAOh3TxdONB2fBYGRiYKey4&e=>

I got too many wiki pages open :-)

Thanks,

Ray

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Alec Hothan (ahothan) 
<ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>> wrote:
Ray,

Looks like this wiki is for the Plugfest in June? I’m not sure I will be able 
to go so I can’t commit to it.
Is there any tech talk option for OPNFV projects at the ONS summit dev forum?

Thanks

  Alec


From: Raymond Paik <rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>>
Date: Friday, March 2, 2018 at 2:16 PM
To: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>
Cc: "Rao, Sridhar" <sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>, 
"opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>" 
<opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>,
 Trevor Cooper <trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>>, 
"Elias, RichardX" <richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>
Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA

Hi Alec,

Do you want to add your session proposal here: 
https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/EVNT/Plugfest+-+Fraser+Release<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwiki.opnfv.org-252Fdisplay-252FEVNT-252FPlugfest-252B-2D-252BFraser-252BRelease-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C41cada5023b34afe08f308d5809344b8-257C63545f2732324d74a44dcdd457063402-257C1-257C0-257C636556292583196536-26sdata-3DrgxnFNbs5-252FVK0rypK06xT3-252ByO-252FU5Otlh5qJ61Bmhsq8-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OfsSu8kTIltVyD1oL72cBw&m=Ci7kKppkvP_GnHUtkml5dqbhNyzptN2EeWnQjYjok7E&s=ZU67FBkkkFO8Xpm_8ekFDFiRGseTblcgCJIGuWztfgs&e=>?

Thanks,

Ray

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Alec Hothan (ahothan) 
<ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>> wrote:
I was just wondering who would be going to the ONS conference in LA in March 
26? I and Al will be going.
There are 2 days of dev forum and perhaps we could have a joint opnfv session 
on data plane benchmarking if there are still time open slots in the OPNFV 
track. Or we could  at least meet for those who plan to attend.

  Alec



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