It would be great if somebody from the VSPERF team can provide input on this (Sridhar should be around at the ONS conference) – I know more or less what VSPERF and CSIT do since I have been following both projects. I think that also falls into the general topic of describing the various DP testing tools in LF which I have planned to add to the discussion. I have updated the agenda – note that the breakout session URL has changed to https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/OPNFV+Breakout+at+LFN+Developer+Forum
Thanks Alec From: Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 1:54 PM To: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com>, Georg Kunz <georg.k...@ericsson.com>, "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acmor...@att.com>, "Rao, Sridhar" <sridhar....@spirent.com> Cc: Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com>, Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>, Sirshak Das <sirshak....@arm.com>, "pierre.ly...@keysight.com" <pierre.ly...@keysight.com>, "richardx.el...@intel.com" <richardx.el...@intel.com>, "trevor.coo...@intel.com" <trevor.coo...@intel.com>, "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org" <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Dear Alec et al, We did not mean to make a connection to VPP and VSPERF. Rather, we run TRex adhoc to benchmark simple use cases. And, would like to know more about VSPERF e.g. compared to CSIT. CSIT on Arm is in progress. More details could be found here. https://wiki.fd.io/view/VPP/AArch64 https://wiki.fd.io/view/CSIT/AArch64 Thank you, Tina Tsou Enterprise Architect Arm tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com> +1 (408)931-3833 From: Alec Hothan (ahothan) [mailto:ahot...@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 1:02 PM To: Georg Kunz <georg.k...@ericsson.com>; Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com>; MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmor...@att.com>; Rao, Sridhar <sridhar....@spirent.com> Cc: Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com>; Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>; Sirshak Das <sirshak....@arm.com>; pierre.ly...@keysight.com; richardx.el...@intel.com; trevor.coo...@intel.com; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA I have added a break out session in the wiki (https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/OPNFV+Unconference+topics+at+LFN+Developer+Forum). The list of topics is tentative and not final, please add/suggest more topics. I am also interested to discuss about DP and OVP, thanks for bringing this up Georg. Tina: I think DP benchmarking and ARM is one good topic (there were few emails a few months ago regarding ARM support for DP benchmarking), I don’t quite get the connection you make between VPP (what’s inside) and VSPERF on ARM. FD.io/CSIT has been doing quite a bit of work with VPP benchmarking and they have their own scripts – independent of VSPERF. Maybe you can elaborate? From what I can see it is not that easy to try to merge testing tools and scripts from the various projects (FD.io CSIT, VSPERF, NFVbench, Yardstick) because they use different frameworks and may target different use cases. The TGAAS initiative only covers the TG part and already shows that it is a very slow process. I myself sometimes wonder if it is really worth the effort to merge software components given that it is disruptive and resources are very scarce. I think it might be more realistic to first try to unify all DP tools by using a common spec such as TST009 and at least have every project “speak the same language” (wrt terms being used, definitions, packet flows, flow definitions, standard benchmark results reporting …), if we can achieve that, it will be a big improvement. Thanks Alec From: Georg Kunz <georg.k...@ericsson.com<mailto:georg.k...@ericsson.com>> Date: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 12:15 PM To: Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>, "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>, "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>> Cc: Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>>, Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>, Sirshak Das <sirshak....@arm.com<mailto:sirshak....@arm.com>>, "pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>" <pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>>, "richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>" <richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>, "trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>" <trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>>, "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>" <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>> Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Hi, I am not working on DP benchmarking directly, but I’d like to follow the session from an OVP perspective. Cheers Georg From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org> [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Tina Tsou Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:51 PM To: Alec Hothan (ahothan) <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>; MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>> Cc: Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>>; Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>; Sirshak Das <sirshak....@arm.com<mailto:sirshak....@arm.com>>; pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>; richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>; trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Dear Alec et al, Thank you for asking. We can probably talk about “Basic L2 and L3 benchmarking for VPP”, more like discussion what’s inside of VPP, e.g. should we run VS perf on Arm? Thank you, Tina Tsou Enterprise Architect Arm tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com> +1 (408)931-3833 From: Alec Hothan (ahothan) [mailto:ahot...@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 10:16 AM To: Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>; MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>> Cc: Bob Monkman <bob.monk...@arm.com<mailto:bob.monk...@arm.com>>; pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>; rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>; Rao, Sridhar <sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>; eddie.arr...@huawei.com<mailto:eddie.arr...@huawei.com>; richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>; trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>; Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>; Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>>; Sirshak Das <sirshak....@arm.com<mailto:sirshak....@arm.com>> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Hi Tina, Trying to converge on an agenda for the (tentative) break out session for DP benchmarking. Do you want to cover/present any specific topic related to FD.io/VPP/DPDK benchmarking? I’m still trying to get more info on logistics for break out session from Ray (from what I understand so far, logistics will be pretty bare bone with multiple break out session sharing a large room) Thanks Alec From: Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>> Date: Friday, March 9, 2018 at 8:51 AM To: "MORTON, ALFRED C (AL)" <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>> Cc: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>, Bob Monkman <bob.monk...@arm.com<mailto:bob.monk...@arm.com>>, "pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>" <pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>>, "rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>" <rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>>, "Rao, Sridhar" <sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>, "eddie.arr...@huawei.com<mailto:eddie.arr...@huawei.com>" <eddie.arr...@huawei.com<mailto:eddie.arr...@huawei.com>>, "richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>" <richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>, "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>" <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>, "trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>" <trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>>, Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>, Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>>, Sirshak Das <sirshak....@arm.com<mailto:sirshak....@arm.com>> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Dear all, Arm team volunteers to help too, we have some experience on VPP and DPDK benchmarking. Thank you, Tina On Mar 9, 2018, at 8:48 AM, MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>> wrote: Hi Alec, I’ll help with the breakout... Al From: Alec Hothan (ahothan) [mailto:ahot...@cisco.com] Sent: Friday, March 9, 2018 11:40 AM To: Bob Monkman <bob.monk...@arm.com<mailto:bob.monk...@arm.com>>; pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>; rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>; Rao, Sridhar <sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>; MORTON, ALFRED C (AL) <acmor...@att.com<mailto:acmor...@att.com>>; eddie.arr...@huawei.com<mailto:eddie.arr...@huawei.com> Cc: richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>; trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>; Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>; Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>; Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Bob, Thanks for your interest, I’d like to have input from Sridhar and Al to see if they want to help prepare/moderate a break out session on DP benchmarking. I see the morning plenary session has a few that have implications on DP: · Long Duration Stability Test (Sridhar, Gabriel) · ETSI NFV & LFN collaboration – Testing (Pierre) · Few container based networking (not sure how much DP benchmarking are in those sessions) I can certainly talk about NFVbench but would prefer to also have VSPERF in the discussion. Possible topics of discussion for the breakout: · Update on the DP benchmarking state in OPNFV (including how NFVbench and VSPERF are complementary, how they compare and which to use in what condition) · DP benchmarking insertion into OVP · Full system and production-level DP benchmarking · Latency measurement and how open source libraries can get us “out of the hole” · TST009 status and what’s next (this is more for Al) I’m not too clear about the format of these breakout session, if it is multiple round tables in a big room it’s not going to be super easy for discussions (noise) or even slide-presentation or whiteboarding… So that makes me concerned given that every one of the above topics is practically large enough to deserve a normal session. Perhaps Ray can touch a word on the break-out session format. Thanks Alec From: Bob Monkman <bob.monk...@arm.com<mailto:bob.monk...@arm.com>> Date: Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 9:49 PM To: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>>, "pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>" <pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>>, "rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>" <rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>>, "Rao, Sridhar" <sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>> Cc: "richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>" <richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>, "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>" <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>, "trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>" <trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>>, Tina Tsou <tina.t...@arm.com<mailto:tina.t...@arm.com>>, Honnappa Nagarahalli <honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com<mailto:honnappa.nagaraha...@arm.com>>, Brian Brooks <brian.bro...@arm.com<mailto:brian.bro...@arm.com>> Subject: RE: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Alec, Adding Tina, Honnappa, and brian, who will be in attendance and one or more of them may be able to attend if you pull something together for Data Plane Benchmarking. We are certainly quite interested in that topic. Regards, bob Robert (Bob) Monkman Director, Networking Software Strategy & Ecosystem Programs Arm 150 Rose Orchard Way San Jose, Ca 95134 M: +1.510.676.5490 Skype: robert.monkman From: opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org> [mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss-boun...@lists.opnfv.org] On Behalf Of Alec Hothan (ahothan) Sent: Saturday, March 3, 2018 8:25 AM To: pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>; rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>; Rao, Sridhar <sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>> Cc: richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>; opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>; trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Ok thanks Ray. Pierre: I have not exactly proposed any topic for discussion (yet) and I was just trying to see who would be interested to do some joint discussion around DP benchmarking – as I understand these will be several round table sessions in a larger room (not ideal for whiteboarding). Is there any particular topic in DP benchmarking you’d be interested to propose/discuss, there are many topics that might be of interest to people but I’d like to first see who will be present. Too bad Trevor will not attend, so looking to see who else from VSPERF team will be present… Thanks Alec From: "pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>" <pierre.ly...@keysight.com<mailto:pierre.ly...@keysight.com>> Date: Friday, March 2, 2018 at 3:54 PM To: "rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>" <rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>>, "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>> Cc: "richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>" <richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>, "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>" <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>, "trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>" <trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Hi Alec, I'll be at ONS, and I'm interested in this discussion Thanks, Pierre -------- Original message -------- From: Raymond Paik <rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>> Date: 3/3/18 12:14 AM (GMT+01:00) To: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>> Cc: "Elias, RichardX" <richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>>, opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>, Trevor Cooper <trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Sorry Alec, here you go https://wiki.lfnetworking.org/display/LN/OPNFV+Unconference+topics+at+LFN+Developer+Forum<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwiki.lfnetworking.org-252Fdisplay-252FLN-252FOPNFV-252BUnconference-252Btopics-252Bat-252BLFN-252BDeveloper-252BForum-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C41cada5023b34afe08f308d5809344b8-257C63545f2732324d74a44dcdd457063402-257C1-257C0-257C636556292583196536-26sdata-3Drq8fqZNn5f-252Bpmt6UBDuXhiCXRHcC6i-252BZBwxJYFgTaRQ-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OfsSu8kTIltVyD1oL72cBw&m=Ci7kKppkvP_GnHUtkml5dqbhNyzptN2EeWnQjYjok7E&s=U91GDuxUTt5_Szy61HafZAOh3TxdONB2fBYGRiYKey4&e=> I got too many wiki pages open :-) Thanks, Ray On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Alec Hothan (ahothan) <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>> wrote: Ray, Looks like this wiki is for the Plugfest in June? I’m not sure I will be able to go so I can’t commit to it. Is there any tech talk option for OPNFV projects at the ONS summit dev forum? Thanks Alec From: Raymond Paik <rp...@linuxfoundation.org<mailto:rp...@linuxfoundation.org>> Date: Friday, March 2, 2018 at 2:16 PM To: "Alec Hothan (ahothan)" <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>> Cc: "Rao, Sridhar" <sridhar....@spirent.com<mailto:sridhar....@spirent.com>>, "opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>" <opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org<mailto:opnfv-tech-discuss@lists.opnfv.org>>, Trevor Cooper <trevor.coo...@intel.com<mailto:trevor.coo...@intel.com>>, "Elias, RichardX" <richardx.el...@intel.com<mailto:richardx.el...@intel.com>> Subject: Re: [opnfv-tech-discuss] ONS conference in LA Hi Alec, Do you want to add your session proposal here: https://wiki.opnfv.org/display/EVNT/Plugfest+-+Fraser+Release<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwiki.opnfv.org-252Fdisplay-252FEVNT-252FPlugfest-252B-2D-252BFraser-252BRelease-26data-3D02-257C01-257C-257C41cada5023b34afe08f308d5809344b8-257C63545f2732324d74a44dcdd457063402-257C1-257C0-257C636556292583196536-26sdata-3DrgxnFNbs5-252FVK0rypK06xT3-252ByO-252FU5Otlh5qJ61Bmhsq8-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=LFYZ-o9_HUMeMTSQicvjIg&r=OfsSu8kTIltVyD1oL72cBw&m=Ci7kKppkvP_GnHUtkml5dqbhNyzptN2EeWnQjYjok7E&s=ZU67FBkkkFO8Xpm_8ekFDFiRGseTblcgCJIGuWztfgs&e=>? Thanks, Ray On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Alec Hothan (ahothan) <ahot...@cisco.com<mailto:ahot...@cisco.com>> wrote: I was just wondering who would be going to the ONS conference in LA in March 26? I and Al will be going. There are 2 days of dev forum and perhaps we could have a joint opnfv session on data plane benchmarking if there are still time open slots in the OPNFV track. Or we could at least meet for those who plan to attend. 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