----- Original Message -----
From: "ietfdbh" <[email protected]>
To: "'Romascanu, Dan (Dan)'" <[email protected]>; "'Edward Beili'"
<[email protected]>; "'Benoit Claise'" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:15 PM

> Hi Dan,
>
> I see your point.
>
> I recommend asking the xml2rfc team to modify the xml2rfc directive.

David

I notice that the Last Call and the datatracker have got it right
(Proposed Standard) despite what the Intended status says (Standards
Track).  I do not know how this is done, whether automatically from the
write-up or from an independent action by the AD, but I would be careful
about changing xml2rfc lest it upsets the part that works (even if I do
not understand how it works:-)

Tom Petch
>
> David Harrington
>
>  <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
>
> +1-603-828-1401
>
> From: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:10 AM
> To: ietfdbh; 'Edward Beili'; 'Benoit Claise'
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [OPSAWG] AD review: draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis
>
>
>
> I am not sure. The IESG telechat can change the status, but the
document
> needs to be clear about what the authors (based on the consensus of
the WG )
> are asking. In this case it does not matter, but for a document that
> obsoletes a previous RFC (as 5066bis originally was written)
'Standards
> Track' is ambiguous - do the authors intent to recycle at Proposed or
do
> they plan to go to Internet Standard?
>
>
>
> As shepherd the text in the template did not provide me the option of
> 'Standards Track':
>
>
>
> (1)   What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
Internet
> Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the
proper
> type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header?
>
> One way or the other, there seems to be a lack of sync between xml2rfc
and
> the write-up template which should be corrected.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
> From: ietfdbh [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:40 AM
> To: 'Edward Beili'; 'Benoit Claise'; Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [OPSAWG] AD review: draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis
>
>
>
> I am of the impression that "standards track" is appropriate in the
internet
> draft.
>
> The IESG telechat is used to tune this finer, and the RFC gets the
> appropriate status level.
>
> This hasn't changed, has it?
>
>
>
> David Harrington
>
>  <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]
>
> +1-603-828-1401
>
> From: OPSAWG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Edward
Beili
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 5:39 PM
> To: Benoit Claise; Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] AD review: draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis
>
>
>
> Dan, Benoit,
>
> I'm having a little difficulty with the header, namely changing
"Indented
> Status" from "Standards Track" to "Proposed Standard".
>
>
>
> I'm using xml2rfc, which automatically converts
>
>
>
> <rfc category="std" .>
>
>
>
> to:
>
>
>
> Intended status: Standards Track
>
>
>
> I don't see a way to change that in the xml, except for fixing it
manually
> in the final .txt file, after xml2rfc conversion.
>
>
>
> Am I missing something in the xml?
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -E.
>
>
>
> From: Benoit Claise [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 00:30
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Edward Beili
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: AD review: draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> The write-up has been updated.
>
> Regards, Benoit
>
> I agree with Ed's comment about the updated security considerations
section.
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Edward Beili [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 10:24 PM
> To: Benoit Claise
> Cc: [email protected]; Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Subject: RE: AD review: draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis
>
>
>
> Benoit,
>
> I'll submit the new version in a couple of hours.
>
>
>
> There's one thing I would like you to consider for adding to the
Technical
> or Workgroup summary:
>
>
>
> This document provides an updated security considerations section for
> IF-CAP-STACK-MIB
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -E.
>
>
>
> From: Benoit Claise [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 19:21
> To: Edward Beili
> Cc: [email protected]; Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Subject: AD review: draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis
>
>
>
> Ed, all,
>
> First of all, as mentioned by Dan Romascanu in his write-up
>
(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis/shepherdw
rite
> up/), please correct this:
>
> (1) What type of RFC is being requested (BCP, Proposed Standard,
Internet
> Standard, Informational, Experimental, or Historic)? Why is this the
proper
> type of RFC? Is this type of RFC indicated in the title page header?
>
> Proposed Standard. The header mentions incorrectly 'Standards Track' -
this
> needs to be changed
>
>
> Below is my AD review.
>
>
> 1.
> OLD:
>
>    In 2011, the IEEE developed IEEE8023-EFM-CU-
>    MIB module, based on the original EFM-CU-MIB module.  The current
>    revision of IEEE8023-EFM-CU-MIB is defined in IEEE Std 802.3.1-2013
>    [802.3.1
>
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis-05#ref-802.3.1>
 ].
>
> NEW
>
>    In 2011, the IEEE developed IEEE8023-EFM-CU-
>    MIB module, based on the original EFM-CU-MIB module [RFC5066].  The
> current
>    revision of IEEE8023-EFM-CU-MIB, is defined in IEEE Std
802.3.1-2013
>    [802.3.1
>
<http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-opsawg-rfc5066bis-05#ref-802.3.1>
 ].
>
>
> 2.
>
>    All further development of the EFM Copper Interfaces MIB will be
done
>    by the IEEE 802.3 working group in the IEEE8023-EFM-CU-MIB module.
>    Requests and comments pertaining to EFM Copper Interfaces MIB
SHOULD
>    be sent to the IEEE 803.3 working group.  Currently, the mailing
list
>    of the IEEE 802.3.1 task force, chartered with MIB development, is
>    [[email protected]].
>
>
> "SHOULD" is to be replaced by "should"
> Justification: RFC 2119 section 6
>
>
> Ed, how quickly can you produce a new version?
>
> Regards, Benoit (OPS AD)
>
>
>
>
>
>


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