t.petch wrote on 25.09.2014 18:42:
> A month on, what is the WG chairs take on this?

Good question. Even more time has passed by now.

Maybe it helps, if I summarize the results of my poll. Hereby, I assume that 
the authors of the two drafts prefer their
respective approach (a presumption, I can confirm for 
draft-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp).

Question 1: Should the protocols be described
a) as "diff" to the previous protocols like done in draft-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp, 
or
b) completely and based on a description of a generic hmac-based authentication 
protocol, as done in draft-hartman?

Result:
a) is preferred by the authors of draft-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp, and by David Reid, 
Tom Petch, Uri Blumenthal
b) is preferred by the authors of draft-hartman-snmp-sha2.

Question 2: Should the protocols be based on complete or truncated HMACs?
- complete is preferred by the authors of draft-hartman-snmp-sha2.
- truncated is preferred by the authors of draft-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp, and by 
David Reid, Tom Petch, Uri Blumenthal

Question 3: Which (sub)set of protocols (hash function, MAC length) should be 
selected?
- Johannes: SHA-256-192 as MUST, SHA-512-256 as SHOULD, all other can be MAY or 
omitted.
- Uri: SHA-256-192 and SHA-384-320 as MUST, SHA-512-256 as SHOULD, and 
SHA-224-??? as MAY
- Tom: AFAIU, he agrees with the preferences expressed by David, Johannes and 
Uri.
- David: SHA-256-192 and SHA-512-384.
(In all the above cases, the preferences were not that strong, there was mainly 
the wish to reduce the number of
protocols in the current draft.)
- Again, I assume, that the authors of draft-hartman-snmp-sha2 prefer their 
proposals.

The preferences are clearly split between two groups, the authors of 
draft-hartman-snmp-sha2 on one side, the authors of
draft-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp, David Reid, Tom Petch, and Uri Blumenthal on the 
other. I don't see any potential compromise
here.

My proposal, which is clearly biased due to my role as author, is to continue 
with draft-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp and to
shorten the list of protocols, e.g. to
usmHMAC192SHA256AuthProtocol as MUST
usmHMAC384SHA512AuthProtocol as SHOULD
usmHMAC256SHA384AuthProtocol and usmHMAC128SHA224AuthProtocol as MAY

In these proposals the truncation is reduced to 25% which is in line with the 
preferences expressed by Uri and David,
and may even reduce the concerns of the authors of draft-hartman-snmp-sha2 
about truncation.


So, chairs, what is your decision?

Johannes


> 
> Tom Petch
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Warren Kumari" <[email protected]>
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>;
> <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 8:11 PM
>>
>> Scott and I just chatted about this.
>> We see that there is interest in this topic, we think it is an
>> important topic, and we would like to adopt /a/ document that
>> addresses this.
>>
>> We'd appreciate it if the authors of draft-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp and
>> draft-hartman-snmp-sha2 can discuss how to move forward, possibly by
>> combining the documents into one, or selecting one and folding in
>> comments from the other.
>>
>> Again, we think that this is an important topic, and would like to get
>> the best possible document adopted.
>>
>> Warren and Scott.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Warren Kumari <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>> Dear OpsAWG WG,
>>>
>>> This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp.
>>>
>>> The draft is available here:
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp/
>>>
>>> Please review this draft to see if you think it is suitable for
>>> adoption by OpsAWG,
>>> and comments to the list, clearly stating your view.
>>>
>>> Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review,
> etc.
>>>
>>> This call for adoption ends Mon 25-Aug-2014.
>>>
>>> In addition, to satisfy RFC 6702 ("Promoting Compliance with
>>> Intellectual Property Rights (IPR)"):
>>> If you are personally aware of any IPR that applies to
>>> draft-hmac-sha-2-usm-snmp, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance
>>> with IETF IPR rules? (See RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669, and 5378 for more
>>> details.)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Warren Kumari
>>> (as OpsAWG WG co-chair)
>>
>>
>>
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