Hi Giuseppe,

Thank you very much for your contribution! I'll merge it into our next revision 
of the draft.
Indeed, I hope the framework can inspire more applications.

Best,
Haoyu

From: Giuseppe Fioccola <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:57 AM
To: Haoyu Song <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
Subject: RE: iFIT framework draft

Dear Haoyu, All,
As promised, here is the proposed new section.
Feel free to edit and let me know your opinion.

"
#.  Intelligent Network Telemetry applications

   The closed-loop nature of the IFIT framework allows numerous new
   applications which enable future network operation architecture.

   In general, it is resource consuming to monitor continuously all
   the flows and all the paths of the network. So a flexible and
   dynamic performance monitoring approach is desired. Some concepts
   like the Interactive Query with Dynamic Network Probes, as
   previously described, go in this direction.

   A good example could be in [I-D.ietf-ippm-multipoint-alt-mark]
   that describes an intelligent performance management based on the
   network condition. The idea is to split the monitoring network
   into Clusters. The Cluster partition that can be applied to every
   type of network graph and the possibility to combine Clusters at
   different levels enable the so called Network Zooming. It allows
   a Controller to calibrate the network telemetry, so that it can
   start without examining in depth and monitor the network as a
   whole. In case of necessity (packet loss or too high delay), an
   immediate detailed analysis can be reconfigured. In particular,
   the Controller, that is aware of the network topology, can set up
   the most suited Cluster partition by changing the traffic filter
   or activate new measurement points and the problem can be localized
  with a step-by-step process.

   To apply this mechanism an IFIT Application on top of the Controllers
   can manage and the IFIT closed loop allows its dynamic and flexible
   operation.
"

Best Regards,

Giuseppe


From: Giuseppe Fioccola
Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 1:51 PM
To: 'Haoyu Song' <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: iFIT framework draft

Dear Haoyu,
Yes, I'm happy to send you some text in the coming days, so you can include it 
in the draft.

Best Regards,

Giuseppe

From: Haoyu Song [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 7:57 PM
To: Giuseppe Fioccola 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: iFIT framework draft

Hi Giuseppe,

Thank you very much for the very good suggestion. Indeed, the closed-loop 
nature of the framework allows numerous new applications which I believe is 
indispensable in future's network operation architecture.
If you have any suggested section or text available, I'll be happy to include 
it in the draft. That way, you can fully construe your thought. Otherwise, I'll 
add some text by myself later. What do you  think?

Best,
Haoyu

From: Giuseppe Fioccola 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2019 7:38 AM
To: Haoyu Song <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: iFIT framework draft

Dear All,
I have read the draft and, I think it is a very good framework, in particular 
with reference to the real practical challenges.
My suggestion is to highlight a bit more the enabled closed-loop approach that 
is a great added value in my opinion.
A possible way can be to introduce a new Section named "Intelligent Network 
telemetry" about the flexible and dynamic monitoring. Some concepts like the 
interactive query with dynamic network probes can be included.
An example could also be in draft-ietf-ippm-multipoint-alt-mark, that describes 
a flexible performance monitoring approach based on the network condition and 
an iFIT Application on top of the Controllers could apply this intelligent 
mechanism. Or, also, other examples can be reported.

Let me know what you think.

Best Regards,

Giuseppe


From: OPSAWG [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Haoyu Song
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 8:06 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [OPSAWG] iFIT framework draft

Hi all,

We recently uploaded a newer version of the iFIT framework draft.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework/<https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdatatracker.ietf.org%2Fdoc%2Fdraft-song-opsawg-ifit-framework%2F&data=02%7C01%7Chaoyu.song%40futurewei.com%7C96507be0170c49d0d5a408d73c37b72f%7C0fee8ff2a3b240189c753a1d5591fedc%7C1%7C0%7C637044082325736265&sdata=7l94rTlxPgbgXM5ftLhKRaUU6%2FZUT60PQOokJ0wSCjo%3D&reserved=0>

The purposes of the drafts are:


  1.  Clarify the terms and underlying techniques for data plane on-path 
telemetry
  2.  Present a framework that addresses the practical implementation and 
deployment issues
  3.  Identify the open issues and directions for related standard development

Given the wide industry interests on adopting such techniques, we believe this 
informational draft is useful and
In the scope of OPSAWG.  Please review the draft and provide your opinions, 
suggestions, and comments.

Thank you very much!

Haoyu
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