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Jeffery Stevenson
Chief Databeast Tamer
Medical Present Value, Inc.
Austin, TX

-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 6:01 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Oracle Licensing

Yarg! Snarfle! Argh! (sounds of chewing up furniture) For some reason, I can't find the URL that started this conversation. I thought it might be sales.oracle.com, but that doesn't give me the power unit calculations. Can someone help?



At 02:26 PM 3/5/01 -0800, you wrote:

>>>>

Not so far fetched. My company lost several very large clients to DB2 and I am without a job.


Martin Kendall wrote:

I'm following this thread and a worrying thought has crossed my mind:-


If Oracle carries on with this pricing model, soon we will all be looking

for a new job......scary :-)


Martin Kendall


-----Original Message-----

Sent: 02 March 2001 22:00

To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



Last time I danced with our sales rep, power units were per server, not per

user... so the power unit price would be 400*100 = 40,000 for an unlimited

(Ha!

at 200mhz?) number of users. If you ask nicely, yours may agree to convert

any

concurrent or named user licenses you have into power unit credits.


Dennis Taylor wrote:


At 06:25 AM 3/2/01 -0800, you wrote:

the mire. At any rate, there are suppose to be two basic licensing

schemes, and

GOD only knows how many "allowed" permutations:


1) Power Units which equates to the number of processors times the

speed of

the processors in Megahertz. Oh, BTW: it matters if their Intel or Risc

processors too. Risc processors are more expensive. In general this is

the

MOST expensive way to go.


I went to the oracle site and did some calcs for adding users to Oracle

Enterprise. Kept sayin g to myself, "Naw, they must mean *hundreds* of

megahertz....". Anyway, for a very behind-the-curve system (2x200mhz

ppro's), it works out to $4000 per additional user.


Or I can look at Interbase/Firebird, which is free.


Today I will be assigning one of my staff the task of downloading,

installing, and evaluating Firebird.


The only way I can imagine that Oracle thinking can be going is: "Hey,

revenues are dropping because of competition from free and less expensive

dbms's". "No problem. Raise prices to make up the shortfall". Then I say

to

myself, "Naw, no-one can be that stupid". Then I check the per-user prices

again....


Dennis Taylor

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