I'll be the first to admit that sometimes I ask a question when I should
probably look up the answer, but is it just me, or do about half the
messages on the list seem like they could be answered in about 5 minutes by
typing the question into google or RTFM. I mean seriously, I was running
into issues installing 8.1.5 on Solaris 2.6 x86 and until I worked all the
way through the install instructions, I had issues. In the process, I
learned a boatload about Solaris and Oracle. No, I'm not slamming anyone
who asks simple questions, some things aren't worth the time to research.
Kind of like when someone asks for help with a regexp in a shell script.
Are we going to tell that person they should become a script guru? No, a
quick help is very appropriate. The questions like "How do I install 8.X.X
on Linux" or "How do I become a DBA", those are the questions that frost me
because they imply a complete lack of effort expended. On the other hand,
if someone says, "I read through the docs and this site and that site, but
because I'm still new, I don't understand how the Log writer works, can
someone explain it?", that's a person I feel good about helping.
Dan "growl"
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Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 9:01 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Lee & Joe,
While I do agree that is possible one should try to figure these things
out,
and this really is a simple one, there does come a time when asking for help
is
appropriate. In this case Lee's answer is very much so. As far as taking
an
OCP course, that does torque my jaws. Over the last two years we must have
had
10 people looking for a job who's only mention of Oracle on their resume is
that
they have their OCP certificate. Needless to say, not a one of them has
been
invited in for an interview. I'll ask the question that's been bugging me
for
some time, Xing, do you think this is some kind of "silver bullet" to
getting a
job?
Dick Goulet
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Author: "Joseph S. Testa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 3/29/2001 4:05 AM
Lee, i'm with you 200%,
oh and for the original addressee(and others) if you can't figure out
what the heck that simple pl/sql block is doing(or where to figure it
out), then quit diluting the OCP worthiness, people who study just to
take the OCP and have no experience just go to further the waste of
paper that the certificate is printed on. :)
joe
lerobe - Lee Robertson wrote:
>
> Xing,
>
> Have a look at the documentation, specifically, Application Developers
> Guide, section dealing with "Using Procedures and Packages".
>
> No disrespect intended but sometimes, certainly for questions such as
this,
> you will learn a heck of a lot more by digging around in the docs, and
> reading (and working out) the answer for yourself. That is certainly my
> experience. You will also fell encouraged to delve further and learn more
> about other packages etc. Hope my pointer will help you.
>
> To the rest of you - I know it would have been quicker to write down the
> answer to Xings question, but what will he have learned about the general
> syntax ??
>
> Regards
>
> Lee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: 29 March 2001 07:05
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Hi DBAs and SAs,
>
> Can someone tell me what is this ORACLE PL/SQL Script all about,..
> Ya... I know I have to read alot, my OCP course will start next month.
>
> BEGIN
> dbms_utility.analyze_schema ( '&OWNER', 'ESTIMATE', NULL, 5 ) ;
> END ;
> /
>
> Thank you
>
> Xing
>
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