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Larry, you are quite correct. As the DBMS_SHARED_POOL.(KEEP|UNKEEP)  package
name suggests the package is pinned (or kept) until either it is unpinned or
the instance is restarted. It will be not aged out

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                Sent:   27 April 2001 01:41
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                Subject:        Pinning Packages Question

                Listers,

                I was involved in a meeting today, strictly as a listener
(no pun intended).
                A consultant made the statement that pinned packages are
subject to being
                aged out of the shared pool, using an LRU type of mechanism.
My
                understanding is that if you pin a package, it stays pinned
(except maybe if
                it gets invalidated? - not sure on that).

                From the Oracle documentation on DBMS_SHARED_POOL.KEEP:

                This procedure keeps an object in the shared pool. Once an
object has been
                kept in the shared pool, it is not subject to aging out of
the pool.

                The above statement from the doc's seems to contradict what
the consultant
                said.

                I am asking this because I am *not* a DBA. I've always been
a developer,
                and, was a DBA for a few years a very long time ago. The
DBA's I work with
                are kind enough to involve me in meetings and discussions on
DBA topics --
                they know that I like to at least try to be somewhat in
touch with the DBA
                side of things (even if a little knowledge is more dangerous
than none). It
                allows us to work better together. But, I know to not ask
questions in
                meetings -- those questions can wait for later. I don't need
to get a
                meeting sidetracked. So, I didn't ask about the consultant's
statement that
                pinned packages can get aged out, especially in front of
him. And, I never
                had the chance the ask about this with the DBA's after the
meeting.

                Anyone want to clarify this point? The doc's seem pretty
clear, but, I could
                be missing some of the subtle things that aren't in
documents and that only
                seasoned DBA's know.

                Regards,

                Larry G. Elkins
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