Re: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?

[JOE TESTA]

Mike, i'm with you there.   alter database datafile '/fill/in/name/here' resize 200m;   or right click in OEM and change the size.  As long as you can do the previous then might as well use the latter :)   joe   >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/27/01 09:26AM >>> More on the same vein. Sorry if this thread is developing a "me too" feel. I'm happy to use GUI tools when they save me time. I know what they're doing and how they achieve their results. The availability of GUI tools is however a huge disincentive for new DBAs to find out how the database actually works and leads to a lack of understanding of the way the beast works as a whole. If your goal is to be a knowledgeable and effective DBA then you can't beat starting from the command line and working your way towards GUI when you find your feet. That requires a long-term viewpoint though, and the world is focussing increasingly on the short term. If I sound like a Luddite then I've given the wrong impression; that;s just my 4 groats-worth. Regards, Mike |--------+-------------------------> |        |          Peter McLarty  | |        |          <peter.mclarty@| |        |          incts.com>     | |        |                         | |        |          06/27/01 01:30 | |        |          PM             | |        |          Please respond | |        |          to ORACLE-L    | |        |                         | |--------+------------------------->   >-----------------------------------------------------------------|   |                                                                 |   |       To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L              |   |       <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>                                    |   |       cc:     (bcc: Mike Hately/ETECH)                          |   |       Subject:     Re: OT RE: 24 x 7 on NT?                     |   >-----------------------------------------------------------------| Oh I agree As a newbie to the Oracle fold I found it oh so easy to dive into stuff  with the DBA Studio, I suppose the thing that stops me is some 7 or more years hacking around Linux and Unix systems. Graphical tools are great for some things but you just cant beat the capabilities of a good script and Windows will be a lot better for it now it has a good scripting system. What i found DBA studio for thogh was the show SQL button I could set up some task to do and then have a look at the SQL that was going to happen so I could better understand it. I am sure when we start seeing more Oracle up on Win2K we will see a lot more scripting on that side to do those mixed OS and SQLPlus tasks. Peter McLarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04 0209 4238 System Administrator L plate Oracle DBA At 03:56 AM 27/06/2001 -0800, you wrote: >On June 27, 2001 07:55 am, Mark Leith wrote: > > slapping developers - what's the problem with them? > >No problem slapping developers.... rather enjoy it actually .... > >The issue I have with point & click is the increasing number of >database admins who can only use these tools. Put them in front of a >command line and they will sit and stare blankly. GUI tools can be >great (except when they're written in java :), but you should >actually know what you are doing and the 'how & why' behind it before >you start clicking a database to death. > >Just my cynical $.02. >Cheers, >GC >-- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Peter McLarty   INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author:   INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).