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More on the same vein. Sorry if this thread is
developing a "me too" feel.
I'm happy to use GUI tools when they save
me time. I know what they're doing and
how they achieve their
results.
The availability of GUI tools is however a huge disincentive for
new DBAs to
find out how the database actually works and leads to a lack of
understanding of
the way the beast works as a whole.
If your goal is
to be a knowledgeable and effective DBA then you can't beat
starting from
the command line and working your way towards GUI when you find
your feet.
That requires a long-term viewpoint though, and the world is
focussing
increasingly on the short term.
If I sound like a Luddite then I've
given the wrong impression; that;s just my
4
groats-worth.
Regards,
Mike
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Oh
I agree
As a newbie to the Oracle fold I found it oh so easy to dive
into
stuff with the DBA Studio, I suppose the thing that stops me is
some 7 or
more years hacking around Linux and Unix systems. Graphical tools
are great
for some things but you just cant beat the capabilities of a good
script
and Windows will be a lot better for it now it has a good scripting
system.
What i found DBA studio for thogh was the show SQL button I could
set up
some task to do and then have a look at the SQL that was going to
happen so
I could better understand it.
I am sure when we start
seeing more Oracle up on Win2K we will see a lot
more scripting on that
side to do those mixed OS and SQLPlus tasks.
Peter
McLarty
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At 03:56 AM 27/06/2001 -0800,
you wrote:
>On June 27, 2001 07:55 am, Mark Leith wrote:
> >
slapping developers - what's the problem with them?
>
>No problem
slapping developers.... rather enjoy it actually ....
>
>The issue
I have with point & click is the increasing number of
>database
admins who can only use these tools. Put them in front of a
>command
line and they will sit and stare blankly. GUI tools can be
>great
(except when they're written in java :), but you should
>actually know
what you are doing and the 'how & why' behind it before
>you start
clicking a database to death.
>
>Just my cynical
$.02.
>Cheers,
>GC
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