Who audits the auditor's auditor?

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when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

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"The point is, you only need one, single trusted person to hold the
administrator account (someone from your audit firm, for example) and almost
everything can be done by sub-administrators who only have the precise
permissions they need and no more. In theory, anyway :0)"

There's that "single point of failure" again!  so... the auditor is more 
trusted than the DBA?

Who audits the auditor?



>From: "Guy Hammond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: RE: How do you audit a DBA?
>Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 01:45:06 -0800
>
>There is an administrator account, but individual users can configure 
>access control lists on their files (right-click, properties, security) 
>that would prevent the administrator from reading them. The only way 
>that an administrator could then read them would be to "take ownership" 
>first. Unlike Unix, ownership of a file is taken rather than given, so 
>even if an Administrator read a confidential file, the OS would not let 
>then erase traces of having done so. If you wanted to steal a file, you 
>could obviously back it up to tape (if you have the Backup Operator
>role) restore it to another system, take ownership there and read it 
>(unless it was encrypted of course) but there's only so much an OS can 
>do about physical security.
>
>The point is, you only need one, single trusted person to hold the 
>administrator account (someone from your audit firm, for example) and 
>almost everything can be done by sub-administrators who only have the 
>precise permissions they need and no more. In theory, anyway :0)
>
>g
>
>
>
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>
>but doesn't there have to be ONE account/role in NT that can assign all 
>the others? how else could you set up a role or continue to set them 
>up?
>
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