Yes, and she is the VP. (hesitating) That's probably because every other
DBA has left, so all of the sudden I am becoming "popular" around here.
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President of the company? Of the U.S.A.?
You would only see him once every ten years... if that.
Does the manager three levels above you know you by name?
: )
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
Acting Head
Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des syst�mes
Technology Services | Services technologiques
Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
Maritimes Region, DFO | R�gion des Maritimes, MPO
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From: Christopher Spence [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:37 PM
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Subject: RE: How do you audit a DBA?
I think the president should be the only one in charge, he just
tells the
dba what to do, i.e., alter the freelists on this table, add some
extents
here, put some fluff there.
"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes,
that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."
Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
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"The point is, you only need one, single trusted person to hold the
administrator account (someone from your audit firm, for example)
and almost
everything can be done by sub-administrators who only have the
precise
permissions they need and no more. In theory, anyway :0)"
There's that "single point of failure" again! so... the auditor is
more
trusted than the DBA?
Who audits the auditor?
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>Subject: RE: How do you audit a DBA?
>Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 01:45:06 -0800
>
>There is an administrator account, but individual users can
configure
>access control lists on their files (right-click, properties,
security)
>that would prevent the administrator from reading them. The only
way
>that an administrator could then read them would be to "take
ownership"
>first. Unlike Unix, ownership of a file is taken rather than given,
so
>even if an Administrator read a confidential file, the OS would not
let
>then erase traces of having done so. If you wanted to steal a file,
you
>could obviously back it up to tape (if you have the Backup Operator
>role) restore it to another system, take ownership there and read
it
>(unless it was encrypted of course) but there's only so much an OS
can
>do about physical security.
>
>The point is, you only need one, single trusted person to hold the
>administrator account (someone from your audit firm, for example)
and
>almost everything can be done by sub-administrators who only have
the
>precise permissions they need and no more. In theory, anyway :0)
>
>g
>
>
>
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>
>but doesn't there have to be ONE account/role in NT that can assign
all
>the others? how else could you set up a role or continue to set
them
>up?
>
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