As for me, this is my 3rd job as an Oracle DBA.

My first job was working for a Porno Company based out
of Beverly Hills, CA. It was a small company (130
internal employees and 200 outside employees aka phone
actress and actors) that owned the majority of the
phone sex lines (over 10,000 lines coming in). As the
DBA, I reported to the owner. I supported and worked
closely with the developers and network admins. But my
major tasks were to automate business practices and to
suggest ways to improve perversion efficiency.

My Second job was working for a national VAR (value
added reseller) company which had strong ties to Sun
Microsystems, IBM, HP, SGI, etc. I reported to the
Co-owner of the company. My job role was to work
closely with the system admins to implement enterprise
solutions for major corporations.

My current job involves a large international
Manufacturing company. As the DBA, I report to the CIO
of the company. Each division has a MIS manager. My
role is to provide support to each division (which
sucks because I have to travel a lot, especially to
the UK...no offense to the people of the UK, but the
only good thing about the UK that I like are the
PUBS!!! The weather, some people and food is another
story).  My major tasks are to consolidate the
companies on a data level, which means I work closely
witht the ERP developers. I also make hardware and
software suggestions to ease operations.

Hope this helps! As far as being with the developers,
you will need to be with them regardless, either at
the beginning of development to make sure they don't
mess up the database or after development to fix the
problems that they did mess up.

Regards,
Satar

Please remember that TRUE muslims do not advocate
violence. Please do not displace your anger on
innocent muslims living in your local area.
--- "O'Neill, Sean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> From: "Farnsworth, Dave"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 05:49:20 -0500
> >> Subject: The DBA in the IS organization
> >>
> >>I am wondering how my fellow DBA's fit into their
> IS organization.  My
> >>situation is this.  I was hired just a little over
> a year ago as a DBA but
> >>my official title is network programmer.  Except
> for some job scripting I
> >>have not done any coding.  I am the only DBA for 5
> Oracle databases and 4
> >>SQL Server installations.  Currently my boss is
> the head of development.
> I
> >>work with the developers and with the network
> admins equally.  I sometimes
> >>feel a bit of a conflict with me being under the
> developers.  I have been
> >>thinking about approaching the VP of IS about
> having me be under him
> rather
> >>than being under development.  I feel I need to
> have equal footing with
> the
> >>development managers and with the network admins. 
> Right now I am kind in
> >>limbo with no real authority.
> >>So anyway, I am just wondering where you fit in
> your organization and what
> >>is the appropriate place for the DBA.
> >>And yes I got called into work.  Sucks to be me
> today.  :o)
> 
> FWIW, I as the only DBA report directly to the IS
> Manager.  We don't do much
> in-house development preferrring to purchase OTS
> solutions.  We have 2 folk
> managing the Network and Server Admin one of whom
> reports directly to the IS
> Manager.  We have some information analysts who also
> report directly to the
> IS Manager.   We're an NT house.  I have local admin
> rights on servers which
> host Oracle databases 6 in all with 10 databases.  I
> share an office with
> the NT admin folk.
> 
> I would have thought that you being separate from
> developers from a
> reporting point of view would be an advantage. 
> Being amoung them is an
> advantage in that you might get to raise matters of
> concern before they go
> too far down the line.  I would think you'd need
> autonomy to defend amoungst
> other topics issues relating to database performance
> potentially with
> developers and/or adminstrators.
> 
> So what perks if any do you get for being called in
> on a Saturday?.  The
> longer I hang around in this DBA field the more it
> seems to be like a
> "vocation" ;)  
> 
> 
> Sean :)
> 
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