LOL.  You want be to give up all my secrets?  OK.  You also have a
maintenance listener which is not on ONAMES or the user's TNSNAMES.ORA.
Your DBA group keeps working without worrying about stepping on users or
having users lock objects. It's simplistic but it works great if your DBA
group is geographically distributed.


                                                                                       
     
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ok i give, what is the difference between

1.� shutting down a listener
2.� alter database enable restricted session where only the DBAs have
restricted session.

and without a listener, the local connected people can still connect to the
database, so you've only stoppped remote connections by stopping the
listener.


joe


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True.� However, I find it useful to have one listener per  instance so that
I can restrict access to an instance without having to alter  the
database.


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No.. Not necessary for more listeners.
One listener is  enough to listen many servers.

Nirmal.

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> I'm sure that someone will correct me if I'm wrong  but:
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> The database is the physical datafiles laid out on the  storage devices -
> hard disks;
> The instance is the logical  constructions (SGA) that exist, hopefully,
in
> RAM;
> The services  are the NT operating system equivalent of UNIX processes
> which
>  run the Oracle engine against the instance to access the  database.
>
> In theory, an instance could be used to access  multiple databases;
> however,
> in practice, DBAs set up one  instance that will be used to access one
> database (and no other  database).
>
> Also, databases could, in theory, be accessed from  multiple instances;
> however, in practice, DBAs set up a database to be  accessed from only
one
> instance (and no other instance).
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>  Microsoft NT sets up the service so that it executes against one, given
>  instance.� However, NT will allow multiple services.
>
> So,  you can have two databases, two instances, and two services on the
>  same
> NT server.� You'll also need two listeners and two services to  run those
> listeners.
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> You'll probably need to read the  manuals for the exact  details.
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> In my test oracle server, i created two different  database with SID
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> Is't possisle  to create two oracle database instances on the same
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>  Presently am able to create only one instance at a time either for  the
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